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Today Kenric and Jeff got to sit down and chat with the Human Finn from Adventure Time, Lance from Voltron, and Reggie from the upcoming Julie and the Phantoms JEREMY SHADA!
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Jeremy Shada - Interview
[00:00:00] Kenric: all right, guys. Welcome back to the show today of all days, it's super awesome. Super special. cause maybe you're a huge fan of adventure time. I don't know, maybe. And maybe you're like me who grew up watching Vultron and having the toy. And then Netflix announced a whole new series of Vultron and you got super excited and then you watched it and it was like, I can't believe they did it right.
I don't know, but today we have Jeremy Shayda on Jeremy. Thank you so much. The voice of Finn, how are you doing?
Jeremy Shada: I am doing great. Thank you so much for, for having me on.
Kenric: Yeah. Yeah. this is awesome, man. You've been a,
Jeremy Shada: both those shows is so highly phrased.
Kenric: Yeah. do you, were you surprised how big Vultron really was?
I mean, we can get into adventure time, which is probably the biggest animated show. I mean it's adventure time and Rick and Morty all through the teen, the teens of. [00:01:00] You know, the year 2000, so,
Jeremy Shada: Oh, a hundred percent
Kenric: Iran. Was it, were you surprised how big that show really was and what that actually meant to cause I'm 45, so I'm a little bit older than you.
And you know, just by like a year. And that show was that show that toy was like everything in the eighties for a lot of us. So we used surprised how big it was when you got that role. And when it actually aired.
Jeremy Shada: Yeah, I think it's one of those things where, I mean, you know, you're working with good people.
Like I knew it was obviously a big thing from the eighties. And so you kind of know that there's some type of built an audience, but I don't really think you ever expected to kind of pick up. The way that it did, you know, you'd be, you're all putting in a lot of good work and a great cast, great creative team.
And so you're excited about it, but that doesn't always mean it's gonna take on the kind of legs that it did. And I think the funny part was it was definitely assumed that it would be like, Oh, it's gonna be really big for like, kind of, you know, younger boys, like kind of teenage guys in the earlier. And then [00:02:00] we definitely had that audience, but I think a much larger portion ended up being like teenage girls.
And it was like, I did not expect that to be a thing. And it's just, yeah, it's always funny what certain people take a liking to and really just have a passion for it. It's never what you expected,
Kenric: dude. I was at my day job, my corporate job, and I remember sitting down and I'm talking to people and. The amount of 40 something, men that were giddy over a cartoon was redacted.
I was like, no, you like cartoons.
Jeremy Shada: Right? We have like, We have this whole group of older guys that were like massive fans of this. It's like older guys and like tween teenage girls. And it's such a weird demographics when you wouldn't think whatever relates almost creepy,
Kenric: buddy. [00:03:00] So you're so my understanding is, so I have to be completely 100% honest. I don't know, adventure time, as a fan, I'm going to go back because I've been, because once I know you're coming on, I go and I why, and listened to a bunch of your interviews. Right. and you seem like a really cool cat and I'm like, okay, this is cool.
And then you started doing all the voices. And I was like, okay, now I get it now I'm to, I want to go back and check it out. But one of the things I thought was really cool is that your brother, actually, we did the voice in the pilot and I can't help. Yeah. And I can tell that you're you and him are probably two little pranksters with each other.
And I can't help to think that during dinner, sometime you're like reaching over to grab the mashed potatoes and you're like, Oh, that's just my. Venture time. Paycheck. Sorry. Sorry there buddy. Sorry. You missed out on that.
Jeremy Shada: Yeah. Yeah. I get asked that a lot. Yeah. I was hoping I was the only one. Dammit. No, I do get asked that and it's always one of those things.
Like I think [00:04:00] people probably expect there to be more of like a joking, like animosity or something. I've had people that were like just flat out. they just, they knew that like there had to be some big thing there, you know? And you're like, no, I mean, the fun thing is at bare minimum. he did the original and then obviously once the show started, you know, the whole way through, but it was I'd rather keep it in the family and then have some other, some other Shabaka, you know, kind of come in and take that.
So the legacy is still there and I mean, and it's such a big part in it. the fact that, I mean, for me in the auditioning process, they'd done the pilot for that like three years before the series.
I think that the cartoon networks, there's like a pretty big gap. and I think when they open it up for casting for the series, they just kind of assume that whoever had done it initially probably.
No, their voice had changed. Cause he was 12 when he did it. And so that's just a natural thing. Yeah. And then I'm about three and a half, like four years younger than him. So when I auditioned, I was like exactly when he, the, [00:05:00] he was when he initially reported it. and my voice just sounded so close to his.
And I kind of tweaked it to cause he can find the little short on YouTube. and I, after I got the job, like nobody realized it was his younger brother. They just stopped. They got super lucky with someone who sounded just like, and then I told them on the first day it was like, Oh yeah, it's funny. My brother did the.
The voice of the original pilot and there's was Oh, that makes so much sense.
Kenric: Oh, that's awesome. But he's from what it was, it seems like he's getting more into music and kind of taking that direction, especially when you guys had the band make out Monday and now you're getting more into what act you want to do more at D and you correct me if I'm wrong.
Are you more wanting to do acting and more voiceover work and he wants to do more of the music side? Or are you trying to inter meld those as much as possible?
Jeremy Shada: I think probably the latter, I think probably inner Melbourne as much as possible. we both have a huge love. Yeah. We both have a huge love for music.
which is obviously what we, pursued the band and really loved making [00:06:00] music. And I think for him, as far as, kind of the acting side of things go, yeah. he's I think a lot more interested in being kind of behind the camera. He really enjoys writing and, and directing. And so I think that's kind of where he sees himself more on that side of things, more so than, than acting where.
As I enjoyed the creative process in the, behind the scenes as well, but I really enjoy acting. And the funny thing is, as far as the melding of all that goes, the show that I'm working on right now that is going to be dropping within like the next, I think two months, on Netflix is literally the combination.
All of those things I am in real life. I sing and play bass. And my character in the show sings and plays bass, and I get to act. So it's kind of everything in one, which is awesome. That's awesome.
Kenric: How long have you been playing bass?
Jeremy Shada: I've been going to basis always about 12 years old on and off for a few years.
And then pretty consistently for the past, I'd say probably six or seven.
Kenric: Do you, do you play drums as well
Jeremy Shada: or [00:07:00] no, I, I'm good with temple, but I cannot play drums to save my life, although I've also never really given it. I don't think a good shot, but I'm not a drummer.
Kenric: Right. Do you, when you're playing the bass, do you find yourself like stepping closer and closer to the drums?
Cause you know how the bass and drums really meld together
Jeremy Shada: a hundred percent? Yeah. it's nice to, it's nice to have that mixture. It's it is such an interesting instrument. It's really like a mixture of drum and guitar. cause you have the more melodic elements of guitar, but you are really there for helping to time just as much as the drums.
And so it's. Yeah, I think it's, I guess it depends on the song sometimes. Like there's a. A fund based risk that goes with the guitar wrapping. You'll be jamming out with the guitar player. And then sometimes you're just right on with the drummer. Especially if you can tell the drummer can't hear themselves, then you're walking back towards the drummer and trying to help them out.
Yeah.
Kenric: I've played guitar since I was 16 and or 15, 15, 16. But dude, I'm S I can play for myself. You know what I [00:08:00] mean? Like I can play and sing. And I, at one time I do, I knew about 120 songs. None of them, mine, obviously. but dude, I was terrible playing with other people, you know, and I don't know what it was.
It's like, I'd get, I'll get in with people. And all of a sudden, I'm going fast. I'm going slow. I'm you know what I mean? I'm all over the place. And it's like, but my timing just sucks. But then if I just play by myself, I'm fine. It's dumb.
Jeremy Shada: No, it's something you get used to. I think definitely. And it's a learning curve.
I think what helped me when I was younger too, is like always just practicing, like even with a. Like a metronome on or something like consistently, just so that you get used to having to go off of something else other than yourself.
Kenric: Yeah. I tried doing that and it's just whatever reason I used to piss my friends off that went off and did some cool stuff. I have everybody that. Is in the band. I don't know. I don't know what kind of music you like [00:09:00] personally, you know, cause sometimes what you play in, what you write is different than what you normally just like turn on the radio.
And
Jeremy Shada: totally, I think I listened to a pretty wide variety of everything. I really enjoy, being pretty well versed in a lot of different genres.
Kenric: Do you have a favorite like bass player,
Jeremy Shada: your bass player? That's hard. I feel like I have favorite like bass parts and bass rifts, two songs, and more so than maybe a specific player that I could tell.
Kenric: Yeah, you should, I don't know if you should check out the band rush. Their basis. Yeah. Their basis, man. Oh my God. Getty Lee. That guy is ridiculous. Hey, you did the voice work on, my neighbors, the Yamadas. How much do you remember being a part of that? Cause that was a long time ago.
Jeremy Shada: I remember absolutely nothing.
I, you know, it's weird. There's like stuff that'll be on your, like IMDV page or Wikipedia. And like I did work on it. But [00:10:00] at the time I did a lot of what they call, ADR looping. So basically, usually it makes more sense in the context of, on-camera projects, but you go in and all like the people in the background.
you basically just improv and give little conversations and voices to everyone in the background. And so when they mix it in, it sounds natural and it doesn't just sound like random. And then sometimes, occasionally you'll be re voicing people that have like one or two lines, or they're adding in stuff that didn't work.
and that's in the context of live action. Now we can do it. This is a animated project. it's even weirder because it's all voice work anyway. So the distinction between the ADR part of it, and then just like the main acting part of it is like almost more blurred. And so you'll end up having little parts.
and so, yeah, like, and that's what I did for that. And I don't even, I feel like if I watched it and maybe I could pick myself out and something of that, but I could not tell you what I did on,
Kenric: I was. [00:11:00] I was interested in on the fact that you were really young when you did it, but more about like, you know, how, when you think about your childhood things come back and flashes more than actual, like you think about last week, you were like, Oh yeah, I can tell you what I had for lunch maybe, or, you know what I mean?
But when it comes to your childhood, everything comes in flashes and it's like, Oh yeah, I remember this. Like, you know, I was always curious, you know, what kind of memories come back from doing things like that? Because it shaped. Who you are today and where you're at today, you know what I mean? So it's a big part.
So yeah. It's cute. I'm always curious, especially when you start at such a young age, I think it's kind of cool that cause you guys came from Idaho and then moved down to LA. Did your parents do make that move specifically? Cause you and your brother were showing an aptitude for acting and for theater and for getting into this type of work or did they just happen to have to move down there?
Jeremy Shada: Yeah, that's a good question at the beginning. it wasn't for that reason at all, they moved down there, [00:12:00] for completely, just completely separate reasons. and my dad was, finishing up, another degree and he's going to go on to do law schools. These are like pre law, and a school there. And. It just kind of came about while we were there.
And then I think plans just kind of change and it's set us on this crazy path that we've been on ever since.
Kenric: yeah, but I think they're amazing
Jeremy Shada: an amazing path. Totally. But it was definitely more so me and my brothers really wanting to do it ourselves. I mean, I think most kids. You'll see, like kind of their parents like kind of press them into it and all of these things, but it really started with my brothers, Zach having a huge interest in wanting to pursue acting, and then to figure out how to actually do that, because it's such a vague concept, I think for a lot of people and it definitely was for us.
But then over time, yeah, here we are. 16 years later.
Kenric: Rad. That's rad though, man. How, tell us about adventure times distant lands. I probably should have asked you that at the very beginning, but when we started talking, we started [00:13:00] doing a pre roll as you started talking, and then we started going into things.
I was like, Oh yeah. So tell us all about adventure times. Distant
Jeremy Shada: lands. So, yeah, adventure time, distant lands is a, I guess, continuation of the, a series, but in the context of four kind of hour long specials that focus on different characters. and obviously on HBO max. So that was a big part of it, kind of a thing for them to launch with that was an exciting thing.
And what better way to launch them to bring back, 11 carts in it's such a weird thing because it was definitely for me gone for a while, but I feel like for fans, it probably didn't feel like it was gone for a super duper long time, maybe like maybe two years, you know? And so it feels, I think, longer for us because we had finished recording on the original series.
Like a year and a half before the final episode ever actually aired. So like, wow. The biggest lag for us was when it was probably three or almost four years between the [00:14:00] ending of last time I recorded on the original series and then doing this.
Kenric: Oh, wow.
Jeremy Shada: Yeah. So for us it definitely feels like longer and much more of a reunion bring back then I think maybe even for the fans, weird, But it was exciting to get that call, actually.
I don't even think I got the call at first. I was on set, shooting this new show that I'm working on. Now that's going to come out in like two months and one of my cast mates, Hey, let's meet. And they're like, dude, I'm so stoked that they're bringing back adventure time. That's so cool. I can't wait to see, like, are you guys working on that right now?
And I was like, what. It's like, what are you talking about? He was like, Oh, so this article then bring it back at venture time, but I hadn't even heard about it. So in my head, I'm thinking like, did I get, like Rick asked for these specials? Like, so, and then I called my agent and they were like, Oh, we just got the call.
That was like leaked earlier than it was supposed to. But yeah, they're, they've been in contact with us, like they've just called basically it's and they're working on the contract and I was like, okay, cool. [00:15:00] Yeah, it's a weird way to hear about something when it's from someone else. I'm like a news article and you didn't even,
Kenric: well, I'll tell you, man, that's the, one of the things that is lame about the internet.
Like we're not teams East, we don't try to scoop anything. Really. We just want to have interesting and fun conversations with people. And it's weird now because when I was growing up, man, It's like, you didn't hear about anything. All of a sudden, boom, it's out. And you're like, Oh my God, you know what I mean?
And your standpoint,
Jeremy Shada: there's no, pre-roll there,
Kenric: but now it's like, Oh yeah, like the Zack Snyder cut coming out. You know what I mean? Like how amazing would that be if they could have kept that under wraps and then it just happened. You would've been like, Oh, I'm freaking out geeking out, but no, Not, you know, everybody's building up.
I mean, it's over, it's like, there's good buildup, but at the same time it was like, nah.
Jeremy Shada: Oh, totally. And it's a weird thing as an actor took as part of you, just, you almost want to just wait and just have everything come out and put on like at once. I mean, it's awesome thing, but that's also hard because in our culture everyone's used to having [00:16:00] teases and these things leading up to everything that you get asked about it constantly or asked about what you're working on constantly.
Yeah, exactly. It makes it harder to actually do that when they're like, okay, we can't even, you can't even say that you're working on a show yet. And you've been working on it for like a year and a half. And you're like, so what have you been up to for the past year and a half? Oh, a whole lot of nothing,
Kenric: man. Just a whole lot,
Jeremy Shada: like it's analysis and you're like, yeah, this is one of them working on in the past a year and a half, like around the clock, but I couldn't say anything.
Kenric: Oh man. Hey, I got. Hey, I got whatever with everything. That's Nope. I have one last question, Jeremy, before the end, before we all wrap up, I want to ask you a question off air about homeschooling, because, well, I'm just going to ask you now.
It's not a big deal. So with everything that's going on in the world with COVID and everything were seriously considering, homeschooling our six year old next year. For first grade. And I was just going to see if you have any [00:17:00] advice of making it fun and interesting for her or pitfalls that maybe made it boring for you.
And you're like, wow, I wish my parents would have done this. You know what I mean?
Jeremy Shada: Yeah. That's a great question. Honestly, you know, people, I think have a, I think that they have certain, what's the word? I guess preconceived notions of kind of what homeschooling looks like. for me, honestly, I mean, Hey, it was helpful that I had two older brothers and a little sister, so like I had siblings, you like, it felt like you always were around other people.
And then I had a lot of friends, I think, outside of just through church or through acting. And like I had a lot of, I had the social interaction that I ever missed out on that. So I think that's the biggest thing is making sure that you have the fun social interaction to go, you know, like not. On a team, if, I mean, if you want to play sports in the team, go from that, but at least don't play some sports or have fun and just do normal stuff.
And then on the other side of it, honestly, if you're good at just getting your work done and going through it, I think homeschooling is awesome. I mean, there's a lot of great [00:18:00] programs to where even if you're technically homeschooled and my wife was pretty much on school as well. yeah, if you're homeschooled and you have a good work ethic and.
Know, your parents are checking in. And I think even now there's a lot of programs where you can still like have teachers and stuff via zoom calls or whatever, at least for tutoring, you know, for specific subjects, if you're not particularly great at something. so, but then when you're done with your work, you have so much more free time to go enjoy those things as a kid and spend time with your family, you know?
So I'm all for it. And I think. the biggest thing is just making sure that you have other friends in those social interactions. So you're not just like stuck at home all the time, but as long as you have that and like really great natural lays, I think you're totally fine.
Kenric: Cool. So, let's get back into venture time.
Cause I know Jeff's gonna have a ton of questions for you on it. And he's got like, he's been itching. But my last question around the vendor time for myself is what do you think made adventure time have such a [00:19:00] generational appeal? Because I know people that are my age that love it all the way down to 10, 11, 12, you know, and even younger at times a
Jeremy Shada: hundred percent, I think.
I think there's a lot of reasons that it became this kind of volts center.
Kenric: Oh no. Did we? We didn't lose him. Did we? I can't
Jeremy Shada: hear all
Kenric: right now you're back. Like as soon as you started talking, it just cut. So we got, we heard none of your answer.
Jeremy Shada: I'll get I'll start back from the top. I can hear you now, though. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Perfect. Yeah, I think I was saying it's hard to boil it down to one specific reason.
I feel like for why it had to kind of multigenerational access to the tab. But I would say at the time that it came out there wasn't anything else like it, it kind of has a throwback kind of, non-sequitur just crazy fun, goofy vibe to it. And then animation style is just [00:20:00] really beautiful and gorgeous and colorful.
and it's one of those worlds that you just want to go spend time in because it feels like there's so many little corners and secret things. And the humor of it is, so I think simple that anyone can get, but then also there is so much over the head humor. That's condensed in a way that I think.
Sometimes kids don't get it. Sometimes they do, but it makes it enjoyable for everyone because there is just great relatable characters that I think you can watch at any age and still find it funny and entertaining. And it's hard to mix all those things. It's hard to mix the comedy with the heart, but I think we had a pretty good balance of all of it.
That's awesome.
Jeff Haas: Well, well, Jeremy, I definitely will say that this is Jeff, my wife, Joey Lynn, and her best friend, Beth loved venture times so much. And they're so excited that we're talking to you. Awesome. And, she actually gave me some questions to ask you, that if I don't have I'm sure she'll kill me.
So I made sure I go in and [00:21:00] check myself as someone who's married. I'm sure you understand.
Jeremy Shada: Oh, totally. You got a happy wife, happy life. that's all it is so
Jeff Haas: totally true. So the first thing I would have to ask her that, she wanted me to ask you again, to go back a little bit to the fact that you, took over the role over time from your brother's act.
And, I didn't notice that Zach never showed up doing any other voices later on in the series. were there episodes that you guys thought about doing together or finding a way to introduce him into the show?
Jeremy Shada: You know, I would have loved to, I kind of. I think I mentioned it a few times. and I, yeah, I think I was trying to figure out a way to make that work.
the hard part is when you come in and you're working on something as an actor, a lot of times you really have no. So, input as far as any creative decision, I mean, you can ask or you can make a suggestion, but it never means they're going to do something, you know? and so I think that was the hard thing.
I really would have loved to have him come in and do something. And I think it would have been a fun. [00:22:00] No, it's in the pilot. We kind of a fun little Easter egg, I think at one point. Okay. We do like so many crazy things in the show and been very possible. At one point I was like, you know, they could be like an alternate kind of reality.
Fan or, I mean, guests, the fun thing is in the pilot. the characters name is actually pen and then they change it, the thing for the series. so it would have been in my thoughts kind of fun to do an alternate reality type thing where the character actually was, called pen and have. Invoice it, and he's a little bit older, which I think like we do so much stuff like that in the show to begin with, and it wouldn't have felt out of place.
And I feel like it would've been a fun nod. So I kind of, I think I mentioned that once or twice, there's also a point where, they're doing all like the gender swap, like Fiona and cake stuff. And, I think. I kind of maybe mentioned, and this is, I mean, whenever like the casting decisions are happening, I'm never obviously privy to any of that.
So it's just, you know, I'm talking about me mentioning something, but it has nothing to do with the creative and what they ended up doing [00:23:00] or what they were already thinking about. I knew they were going to be doing the Marshall Lee, which is like the gender swap version of, of Mar saline. And because Zack is obviously.
Great singer, very musical, all those things. I was like, Oh, that could be a fun thing. It was only going to be in like one episode. So I was like, that could be a fun, little Easter egg to kind of have him play that role. But then, I mean, that's just a thought that I had, obviously Donald Glover do a role.
Who's awesome. And so then the thing super cool. He actually moderated, I think our, San Diego comic con panel in that year, and then he was fantastic as that character. but yeah, like that's, I think I had thought that a couple of times. but you know, you're not really involved in the creative decisions, so you don't really get to make that happen.
I guess
Kenric: I got to interrupt. You had childish Gambino, moderate your panel at San Diego
Jeremy Shada: Comicon. yeah. one year we
Kenric: did you fanboy
Jeremy Shada: out?
Kenric: I don't know if I'd be able to talk to him. you're that's you?
Jeremy Shada: Yeah, like it's kinda funny. I feel like at the time, I didn't even know. as much about him [00:24:00] as I do now, like I, I knew that he like worked on like 30 rock and like a community.
And like I knew he was really
Kenric: funny.
Jeremy Shada: but I didn't even, yeah. I didn't even know that he was, I don't even think I realized that was the same person that was childish Gambino at that point. and then I looked it up afterwards and I was like, Ooh, that makes so much sense. I was like, man, this guy, I mean, like, he's funny, but like you can really sing in the show.
Awesome. And then he moderated the panel and it didn't really hit me until afterwards that was the correlation. So I think, yeah, I feel like I know far more about him now than I did then.
Kenric: That's awesome.
Jeff Haas: Now, if I'm correct, you were, you did a venture time for, is it eight years?
Jeremy Shada: that, yeah, I think that sounds about right.
Well, I think we started recording in 2009 maybe. And I think by the time the series, like the final episode came out, it was probably 2018. So yeah, eight or nine years, I think before we stopped the original show.
Jeff Haas: So you, what you said you started when you were 12, you, what? You played the part from [00:25:00] 12 to 20, correct?
Yeah, approximately. So it's kind of a weird, did you ever get that concern of your voice, like changing a bit that would not work for fin anymore? Or was that, or were you able to just always keep it at the right level for you when performing?
Jeremy Shada: Yeah, that was a big concern actually. the first season, my voice, I was 12.
My voice had already started changing. and. They're all like the boys cracks and all that stuff when Finn's like screaming or just like the national voice cracks. So he's talking at times, especially in the first like season or two was not intentional. That was all just the fact that I was going through boys change, but they liked it and they thought it sounded natural and worked with the characters.
So they kept it all in. and then it was one of those things where I was kind of thinking, well, my voice is going to be done changing, and it's going to sound different, but they were happy to let the character actually aged throughout the show. They didn't want to recast. Which I was very thankful for.
and I think probably by season three of my voices stopped actually changing. And from that [00:26:00] point on, it was just more of a character voice. So from that point on, it was just more, up in my high register. And like, obviously my talking voice now doesn't sound like a within sounds like, but if I'm going kind of up to, Hey, Jake, let's go into venture.
Oh, that's that sounds like the younger kind of, Well, it sort of within sounds like, so I think really season three on it became kind of a character relationship was fun.
Jeff Haas: Now let's get, as you grew on the show, did you look into and get more creative control of what was happening in the story? Or were you always happy to let that part kind of stand away from your part of the show, your performance?
Jeremy Shada: Right. I was, I mean, I was, I'm always happy to just do my thing as an actor. and it's a definite kind of symbiotic relationship you have with the writers and the story boarders. And what's happening to the character, you know, and I started to showing us so young that it's a weird transition kind of growing up on a show.
because there isn't that moment where, you know, like you're not a kid anymore, you're just coming and working on the show. But everyone that was there knew [00:27:00] so that I can hear me. Hello?
Kenric: Yep. We can hear you now.
Jeff Haas: Yep. I can hear you now
Kenric: just every once in a while, your signal goes down.
Jeremy Shada: Oh, no worries.
Yeah. I'll probably cause that we're on the road right now. So that might be why.
Kenric: Oh, no worries.
Jeremy Shada: Sorry about that.
Jeff Haas: yeah. Continue accurate with you. Was John DiMaggio and what I thought was fantastic is that your chemistry with Finn and Jake are fantastic on the show. That's probably one the stronger parts of the show as the show went on.
Did you find it easier to talk to, mr.
Jeremy Shada: Say that again. So sorry. with Mazda. Yeah.
Jeff Haas: John did find it easier.
Jeremy Shada: I honestly, I found John easy to work with really the whole time. he, even in the records where there wasn't everybody, there was almost always at bare minimum. me and John, and so I we've, you know, we grew really close and it was kind of like a.
[00:28:00] You start so young and it almost feels like a me having John as like kind of a crazy fun uncle, you know, type of relationship. And I feel like especially early on, so that's kind of what it felt like, which, I mean, I think translates into the show as well. I feel like it feels very similar to probably what that would have been.
and he was such a great. I think just mentor as far as voice acting goes and just kind of watching him do his thing and learning a lot from him. And he just hilarious. I mean, he's always cracking jokes between takes, he, you know, is great with impressions and like all those guys can do a million different voices and impressions and we'll just go on for.
For hours at a time on all these things that come from stand up, comedy backgrounds. And so it's just, it's a ride it's fun getting to just sit in there and just watch them do their thing. And then, you know, when you get to also call them peers and, and be a coworker with them is pretty special. So that didn't change.
I think throughout the whole thing, I think they really, stayed pretty similar the whole way through.
Jeff Haas: So, what did he give John Demato give you [00:29:00] any advice for, performing or how to handle maybe the celebrity that you obviously were going to receive?
Jeremy Shada: I think things have changed a lot since the beginning of the show, you know, I don't think really, I think he gave me some advice as far as going to like a Comicon and kind of how to deal with that before I never done that.
you know, just with. There's any fans or underneath this types of things, they're gonna be screaming when you walk on the stage. so on and so forth, I'm in like other little, kind of tips for recording in the booth. But I think when we first started the show, it wasn't as common to know who wastes actors are as it is now, or just people in general.
I mean, you can look up who anybody is in about two seconds on social media. So. You know, even off of those jobs. So I would still get recognized and stopped and like a lot of different places. and so I don't think that was as much how it was when we first started doing the show. I think it really kind of [00:30:00] exploded throughout the series, social media and people really having this kind of, I guess, portal into your personal life a little bit more so than it would have been prior to that.
and. Now everybody is celebrity in some way, shape or form. It's kind of crazy
Jeff Haas: now because you were abused, acting like you said, you might not have been as known or people, the voice actors weren't as well known back, maybe in 2010, when it started. Did you, did you find that kind of allowed you to like correct Taylor avoid the child celebrity stigma hundred
Jeremy Shada: percent?
Yeah. I think it's one of those things where people knew me extremely well when I went to the events. For the show, but then outside of that, you know, maybe once a month you'd have someone recognize you at like dinner or something, but it didn't feel, it didn't feel like that. And I also, like, my family kept me super down to earth and all my close friends for the most part, especially when I was growing up, weren't even sure of the industry.
and so they all did different [00:31:00] things and like that wasn't even. What any of our friendship was predicated on. And I think that made all the difference. Yeah. It keeps you humble and you're just normal, you know, it was just like, this is a cool thing that I get to do and I love doing it.
That's my career and my job, but outside of that, you know, just being normal makes all the difference. Yeah.
Jeff Haas: Well, I mean, since so much of your life was wrapped up in being fin for, like I said, those eight years, was it hard to let go of the character in 2018? Like, did you feel that like deep loss of the character or you were you at that point ready to go?
You know what I've done? Finn is completed. I'm going to move on to my other things. Now
Jeremy Shada: that's a great question. I think it's always bittersweet. I mean, most shows don't go anywhere near as long as that one did. And so it's a surreal kind of weird experience transitioning from every single Tuesday.
Working on adventure time with the whole cast. and then, you know, like our four hour block for each of those Tuesdays, suddenly the next Tuesday after our last report, I was kind of like the sprinkle I do today. Like, it was a weird, you know, like for nine years in a row, that's what I did every single Tuesday.
[00:32:00] So it's just a, it's a weird. It's very bizarre. and I think the nice thing is you always want to branch out and do new shows and, you know, go on new challenges and new experiences in life. And so that I was definitely excited for, but you definitely just miss, I think the cast and the people that you really enjoy working with and getting to see on a weekly basis.
I think that's the kind of bittersweet part of it is you're thankful the show went that long. And so you're okay, cool. Like I've. We did great. We achieved the success that we could have possibly achieved and even more so, so I'm ready to move on to do other fun things, but yeah, that's what you, miss is the people that you've grown close with and you get to work with, you know?
Jeff Haas: Yeah. Well, well, my wife deftly wants me to ask you one more question. My wife Joellen. She wanted me to ask you if you could live a day as fan, which episode would you choose to live with then?
Jeremy Shada: Hey, I'm tired. I know. Oh, I feel like there's just too, there's too much. There's too much. I mean, there's so much you would want to do.
I don't even know how you condense it all into like one day, but, Probably the episodes where, you know, Finn [00:33:00] is, has some magical power or something, you know, like when it gets to like the magical rings or, yeah, I don't know what episode I would plop down into. I would just be stoked to get, to go to the candy kingdom and eat buildings and write on a stretchy dog who can talk pretty Epic.
Yeah. Like all those things are, that's pretty fun.
Jeff Haas: That day, that is when junior to show the show is, I mean, it's in the best way possible. So incredibly random on some levels, it really is entertaining to watch. I did. My wife had, drew me in to the show to watch some of the episodes and whatnot, and I enjoy the randomness of it all.
Jeremy Shada: Totally. Yeah, I think it has that very non-sequitur it's just like, I mean, every episode is different and they can go in any direction that you don't expect. And there's almost in a great way. I'm sure the showrunners and writers would be like, Oh no, there's rules to the world. So I'm sure they have some time.
That's what you can and can't do. But for a viewer, you're there's really no rules. And so when you have that type of thing, you really can do whatever you want and it [00:34:00] can go kind of anywhere. And so that's what I think keeps you guessing and it makes it bond. It really doesn't. I don't even know what you would call it, like a generic episode of the show, you know, like, I don't know what you would say happens on a weekly basis because they're all so
Jeff Haas: different.
Yeah. I mean, well, one thing I found interesting too, because you're doing an adventure venture time, distant lands, you guys moved on, you're, you did one, an episode of that four episode, a web series. So was that kind of like your way of just like handing off the Baton and going, you know, what you guys take it from here?
Or was it, you know, just kind of, just what you had time to do. how did that work for you?
Jeremy Shada: For you mean for distant lands specifically? Yeah. Yeah. So for distant lands, I mean, they kind of brought it to us as I'm just doing these floor kind of hour long specials that we're going to focus on different characters.
and the, I think the first one was kind of a female centric, episode there's one, that's like a Marcelain and princess bubblegum centric episode. There's another [00:35:00] one that I want to see is peppermint Butler. I don't completely remember. I'm not really in that one. And then the final one is Finn and Jake, and it's like all Finn and Jake.
and so I worked on, yeah, the defendant Jake one is the one that obviously I was on, but like the whole time it was it every single record. And then I had, I think a couple of little cameos and like two of the other ones, in like the tail ends of them. But for the most part. Yeah, I was just worked on the phenom, Jake one, which I think is going to be the very final one of the, the four specials.
And so it really, basically, we ended up kind of being like, just reporting for him in that one special. And the first one was with most of the tasks and then there's like a good portion of the Finn and Jake one where it's like pretty, just been for a little while. So it was kind of weird. It was almost like.
Having a little solo episode for like a little bit, and then it kind of culminates in this extremely Epic, ending. But there definitely, I feel like I don't even know how this is [00:36:00] possible for venture time. Cause we can go to so many places at the outset anyway, but these specials really feel like they kind of push the story envelope as far as what we.
Previously could have done in the show. And I think that's kind of fun. It feels like you're, it feels almost like an adventure time movie in a lot of ways. even though it's shorter, but yeah, I think that's pretty much all I got. I haven't even read three of the specials. I've only read the, the Finn and Jake one all the way through, which is the one that I actively recorded on.
So I'm kind of excited to watch the other ones, cause I really don't know even what happens.
Kenric: You can have your own show and watch something. You don't know anything about what's going to happen.
Jeremy Shada: A hundred percent. Yeah. Other than like the tiny little cameo, I hadn't like the other two. I don't know what the entirety of those episodes are.
Kenric: So HBO, max, adventure time distant lands out. Now you're going to have a, when does your episode air do you know?
Jeremy Shada: I think mine will probably come out, I want to say, maybe it'll be late this year. It will be the last one of this. I think it's still [00:37:00] gonna be in 2020, but I think it's going to be late 2020, but the, the first couple, I think the first ones out now on HBO max and the second one should be coming out pretty soon.
Kenric: Okay.
Jeff Haas: I did have one last question for you. when my wife went, let's get a fan of your music as well with makeup Monday. in your, in the album, visions of Hollywood, did you write the songs and were song, do you think it was most important to
Kenric: you? That's a good question.
Jeremy Shada: we all have the make out.
My music is all written by us. So, everything, lyrically, melodically, all that's all written by the band. and I think probably, I would say 90, 80 to 90% of lyrics are actually written by Zach. And then I have a little bit of. Lyrical writing in that stuff. as far as what means like song means the most?
I don't know. I mean, they all have, some of them are just full on like stories, kind of, some of them are taken from real life experiences from each of the band members and kind of molded into their own thing. I think one of my favorite songs is kiss a phobic, probably just because. [00:38:00] Oh yeah.
Cause my wife was in the music video. So there you go right now. Hello? Hello. She's like, I better be your favorite. Yeah, that's my thing. And yeah, I think he just, it has a very throwback kind of do Oppy vibe and then it kind of progressed into a full on rock song. And we did that. The music video is like a really big homage to.
the backs of the future and champion under the sea dance. and so, yeah. Yeah, it's one of my favorite songs where the musicality of the song and the kind of imagery of the video really meshed together. and it's fun when you take something that's kind of old and retro, but bring it into modern, modern sound.
And so, yeah, I think that's probably one of the ones that I'm the most proud of just because I don't know, I just love that song. And we grew up listening to old like beach boys and. Righteous brothers and Elvis. And I feel like there's a lot of that stuff kind of mixed in there. That's cool.
Kenric: Hey, can you tell us, what is the name of the, the Netflix [00:39:00] show that you have coming out in a couple of months?
Or can you not release that yet?
Jeremy Shada: I,
I mean it's yeah, maybe not actually. it's okay. Back in like, no, it's all good. call me back in literally. I'm pretty sure they're going to be announcing it in literally the next two to three weeks. Okay, cool. So, yeah, so maybe I can, yeah. Off offline, I can off the recording. I can tell you, and then maybe you can put it in there as an amended thing.
but yeah, they have their own announcement and gas announcement, I think in like two, two weeks from now, I think on like the 21st, so,
Kenric: okay. Well, we can always release this after that announcement happens. So
Jeremy Shada: okay. That way. I mean, that would be awesome.
Kenric: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's not a big deal. If we know the date that they're releasing it, then we'll hold off a couple of days then release.
Jeremy Shada: Okay, perfect. Yeah. I mean, if that's the case, then it comes out after the cast announcement. It's totally fine. So the show is called, Julian, the Phantoms, and it's not a band. [00:40:00] And Kenny Ortega, who did like all the high school musical movies and descendants movies, and worked with amazing artists and beers like Michael Jackson and all these amazing music, videos and tours, he's executive producing and directing most the series.
and so, yeah, it's going to be really cool. It's called Julie and the Phantoms. I'm one of the, I'm one of the fandoms in the show. And yeah, I think they should be announcing it on July 21st, so. Okay, cool. I guess I'll just check to make sure that's actually
Kenric: happened before. yeah, no, this will come out.
This won't come out until August anyways. So what does it mean?
Jeremy Shada: It does. Yeah, we will make sure it doesn't come out until August. You're totally fine. It's going to be announced by then.
Kenric: Is it live action or animated? Yep.
Jeremy Shada: It's live action. We shot the whole first season. last year in Vancouver, I was up in Vancouver for like six months.
find episodes. Are you guys in Vancouver?
Kenric: No, I'm in Seattle.
Jeremy Shada: I'm in Seattle. Okay. Yeah. yeah, we were up in Vancouver and like the whole time shooting and it's a really cool show. it's it was a lot of work, you know, everything from the music [00:41:00] reporting to the shootings. Everything else.
it's it's going to be really
Kenric: cool. Very cool. Well, Jeremy, thank you so much for taking some time out of your day on the road and giving us a shout out in the call. And this was amazing, man. I would love to have you back on anytime a man I'd have you on every Wednesday. How about we can do spoiler country Tuesdays.
Jeremy Shada: Great idea.
Kenric: Right? It's a great idea. but seriously, man, you're a wonderful guy to talk with and we thank you so much for taking your time out. Of
Jeremy Shada: course. Thank you so much for being awesome. I appreciate it. Guys. Have a great kickoff to your holiday weekend.
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