The Death of Superman (animated) with Denis Caron

The Death of Superman is one of the most important events to happen in the world of comics and pop culture ever. DC Animated has taken it upon themselves in their current animated universe to tackle this monster of a story.

They tried this back in 2007 with Superman: Doomsday to mixed reviews.

How does this new one hold up?

Is it better? Worse?

Listen as Denis Caron of Corvink joins us and we talk all about it!

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Transcript

Robot Steve is back at it, making mistakes.

Kenric:
[0:00] Ride country and map over there,
is mr. Karen good we’re here to talk The Death of Superman animated should be a lot of fun actually it was it was a good at it I think was a good at at patient.

Denis:
[0:18] Do the thing where we reveal to each other how we felt about it.

Kenric:
[0:21] No because last time they did that failed miserably and I was the only one that actually said anything so.

John:
[0:27] I’m Indiana already did it so you know.

Kenric:
[0:29] And I was but I’m sitting in a Dallas hotel room and I brought my my stuff so weak.

John:
[0:35] Sitting at home in my desk comfortable eight.

Kenric:
[0:38] Well I’m comfortable to the next hotel room,
and it’s probably like the best environment I’ve ever actually recorded in.

John:
[0:46] There’s no background noise.

Kenric:
[0:47] Yeah it’s completely silent there’s like a desk with a built-in wall into it so like,
beaches going into like a dead zone you know and then,
bruh studio arm with me and i got my computer go in the psych probably the best environment of i’ve recorded since we started.

John:
[1:05] They sell fantastix tells me no background check out this time.

Kenric:
[1:08] Yeah navigate.

John:
[1:09] Nice so Dennis when this movie was being announced to beat you and I talked to him about like our reservations at this movie,
what was like your biggest thing you didn’t like about it going to before you watched it.

Denis:
[1:20] Before watching it.

John:
[1:23] I bitched about some things with you.

Denis:
[1:24] Am I my biggest fear was just I don’t,
I don’t hate but I don’t love them thieve New 52 continuity and there are certain things that I just have fears that it was going to be was going to be true enough to the comic
and I was going to be disappointed because of other objects
adaptations so far haven’t been great you know so I was just like please please please be like accurate and good but I mean I’m ghost happy with it.

Kenric:
[1:55] But you guys didn’t like Doomsday.

John:
[1:58] No no it was the trailer for The.

Denis:
[1:59] That’s the trailer dismissal nervous.

Kenric:
[2:02] Yeah but what you didn’t like do today that the Superman Doomsday.

Denis:
[2:06] Oh no. No did you like it.

Kenric:
[2:08] I enjoyed it but I’m not the Superman Aficionado is like Johnny and I think you know Superman much better than I do as well so I just I knew the death of Superman storyline you know cuz I read it back in,
92 or whatever 91.

Denis:
[2:24] I mean I didn’t hate the Doomsday movie but it just didn’t leave me with much at all you know that guy I had some feelings with the Death part but the rest of it was just kind of bored you know.

John:
[2:36] It was Ivana for the time of all this is the best you’re going to get.

Denis:
[2:39] Yeah.

John:
[2:41] Everything else and the trailer that was heavy on the Justice League right there was way too much Justice.

Denis:
[2:46] I was worried batman wasn’t being it way to much.

John:
[2:51] Right this will be a Batman movie with Superman die in the.

Denis:
[2:54] Yeah.

Kenric:
[2:56] Hello BBs.

John:
[2:57] But it was that the trailer different and not tell you anything about that was going on you get get it me age showed a salon in but they were not in the movie that much.

Kenric:
[3:07] Well you know what I was watching it I kept thinking this is probably exactly what Johnny wants people to see Superman as the whole time.

Denis:
[3:17] To the whole movie.

Kenric:
[3:18] Yeah cuz in the way people were were talking about him and.

Denis:
[3:21] Yeah everyone loved him.

Kenric:
[3:22] What you think of them having his dad still alive.

Denis:
[3:27] Doesn’t bother me I don’t know how John would be the one on.

John:
[3:29] Owatonna can it was I mean it’s fine like his dad doesn’t die his dad dies after the death.

Denis:
[3:35] How does he remember that oh yeah I know you’re right yeah because lowest does go talk to the parents that’s right.

John:
[3:39] His dad and his dad dies after after he dies at that dies and it would have been over 500 because Superman he just he sees Superman’s Dead in the comics.

Kenric:
[3:47] So is his is his is him dying only in the movie was that the first time that they’ve actually done that.

Denis:
[3:53] No he died in Smallville.

John:
[3:55] He died in 500 after Superman had died.

Kenric:
[4:03] And die anytime before that.

John:
[4:05] I’m sure he did but not the stuff is hard not that i’m aware.

Kenric:
[4:08] Because I mean my my from my own recollection the origin and history of Superman is his dad dies when he’s a teenager that’s just how it’s always been you don’t even.

John:
[4:19] Well that’s that that’s the death of Donna Sue from it that’s happened in the $78 don’t wear this whatever it is.

Kenric:
[4:24] Yeah well that’s that’s but for me that’s my first real inclination of who Superman is in my first real interaction with Superman is.

Denis:
[4:34] So you didn’t read any Comics prior to those movies.

Kenric:
[4:36] Four years old and that came up,
and that’s what I watched and that’s was my first you know and then I remember sitting in line for Superman 2 at the Redwood Cinemas in Bremerton Washington and that the line was so long that they literally had to come out and say everybody pass this Mark is not getting into the.

Denis:
[4:53] Could well.

Kenric:
[4:54] It so they gave us vouchers with the time to say what time we could come back and meet my brother went into the arcade played a bunch of video games and came back out and we got the 2 showing,
for $0.75 because it was still the matinee,
yeah and so that’s might so for me it’s always going to be Christopher Reeve right it’s hard to see I mean I like seeing everybody else but I always look to say why are they good as Christopher Reeve because that guy was that guy,
his whole transformation from Superman to Clark Kent and all that was perfect.

Denis:
[5:28] Right I agree.

Kenric:
[5:29] You can get a better actor for that and so it’s hard to when they had him when then job in Clark or Jonathan Kent die in the first one night just thought that’s how it is was for all the continuities every time I see you it’s always kind of freaks me out.

John:
[5:44] Well that that movie kind of set the tone for a lot of Superman things going forward to me it changed that movie changed how people saw Krypton that changed from the comics that changed a lot of things about what Superman was after that movie came out,
run talk about it today.

Kenric:
[5:59] Down but comes.

Denis:
[6:02] The only superman that ever existed ever that’s it.

John:
[6:05] Right.

Denis:
[6:06] Is it weird other that doesn’t like that to people like for some people The Dark Knight will be the only Batman or like the current Joker with Jared Leto will be the only Joker in their mind because that’s the first one they saw.

Kenric:
[6:19] You get so mad about it.

Denis:
[6:21] Or one that’s.

Kenric:
[6:22] Good in your mind that I can’t be good cuz that’s what people are going to see.

Denis:
[6:28] So i’m happy that this movie actually was good and because this was a good version of superman the the from the virgin mean john and other people wanted to the waitress the world to really see so this is your first time seeing superman great,
not enough to enter tell the one i mean i don’t have a problem with and have all himself but it’s not super man from the comics for who he hit.

John:
[6:51] Right right he’s too dark I mean you know.

Kenric:
[6:54] It does not eric l.

John:
[6:55] Yeah yeah I think you could be a more hopeful great Superman if you was given the material to do it you know.

Denis:
[7:02] I just remembered that the Rickroll I sent you guys about Henry.

Kenric:
[7:08] Gotta go to shot you man with a other greeley cat damn it.

John:
[7:14] What’s greater than I saw it I stopped working tonight I fell for it too. I didn’t say anything in the Chadwick now.

Kenric:
[7:23] And scene.

John:
[7:27] So I got to be honest watching this movie I got a little emotional about it like I really did.

Denis:
[7:32] Was that was that a secret for anyone.

Kenric:
[7:33] See what yeah what what.

John:
[7:35] No that was not a secret but.

Kenric:
[7:37] What particular scene really really.

John:
[7:39] The whole thing man the whole thing.

Kenric:
[7:41] Right so right we sure watching it with you crying off the bat what’s what’s going on here.

John:
[7:45] Probably about like ten tablet fifteen twenty minutes in this movie he is like getting emotional buildup but it might watch it like this story that i’ve read multiple times this is just like the story that made me love comic books as a kid
like I dread comes before that I would Wolverine Iron Man Superman I read Batman and intercept before this but when this came out I just was such a big deal that
I read it like back and forth I bought that I have my dad buy me the trade paperback as soon as they came out and I read those until they fall apart
you know and I have the Return of Superman paper I thought I read until it fell apart and I can when I got back into comes after high school I went and bought him again and I would really want to play when I was flying to San Diego and flying places.

Denis:
[8:23] Geez I’ve never read anything that much.

Kenric:
[8:27] The ever the dark knight quite a bit when i was going.

John:
[8:29] Yeah one thing is this the story that it’s been way wondering anything else but like every time I read it it chokes me up makes me emotional every single time.

Denis:
[8:39] You’re choking up right now I can hear it.

John:
[8:42] Shut up man.

Kenric:
[8:44] It’s so,
what did the capture the best it don’t see say the hopeful this because it i feel like that’s what you eat what you always well that’s what most people when they talk about two minutes with the kinda gravitate towards but what was like the single best quality,
that they really captured really well in this but in this movie.

Denis:
[9:03] From comic dub to Lakewood Park.

John:
[9:06] I think the catcher doomsday very well to be honest.

Denis:
[9:08] Agreed that doomsday was a lot better than previous generations of be vs or or the version from you know the first animation use a lot better.

John:
[9:18] Yeah he was scary he was a murder machine he was like.

Denis:
[9:21] 10 vs Diana dude holy s*** that was so awesome.

John:
[9:26] County heard the ground theater.

Denis:
[9:27] Yeah for hair coming down.

Kenric:
[9:29] Yeah the only thing is they never understand like it’s rare that you see her take her braces off you know,
cuz that’s deer toes are dentist with with Diana and her braces.

Denis:
[9:41] Chaboya released a new 52 run that was like controlling her powers are keeping her like we.

Kenric:
[9:48] Yeah yeah.

Denis:
[9:48] Anyway yeah so then breaking off makes us stronger.

Kenric:
[9:51] In this step with the with ir is it ever marrow or i’d presently.

Denis:
[9:57] Maybe it is that what happened in that I’m still in the middle of that one I don’t know.

Kenric:
[10:00] There’s a lot of stuff that has become basically.

John:
[10:05] Diane has been writen so many times.

Kenric:
[10:08] It’s hard to say.

Denis:
[10:08] It’s very hard to keep her straight.

Kenric:
[10:11] All i know is that she was holder on with them for a long time there.

Denis:
[10:14] That was awesome.

Kenric:
[10:15] Grab that fricken half that car threw it out and was like holy shit it’s.

Denis:
[10:20] I love that her fighting scene was longer than Batman’s fighting scene with him because that man just doesn’t stand a chance.

Kenric:
[10:26] Oh yeah no doubt.

John:
[10:29] Into it i think i think the handle batman this really pretty trigger for about an burley did iraq directly with his headstone to bombs were anyway.

Kenric:
[10:37] That’s all you could do.

John:
[10:37] Right is right
did the whole fight with Justin that was pretty cool I guess is technically in the comments if you read the Justice League number 63 crossover that they did in his it in part of it in the district manager there is an issue just as we were doing is fighting it fighting them,
because right but it’s not what it’s cuz it’s not in the desert man trade it’s a it’s a book it’s there.

Kenric:
[11:00] The crossover.

John:
[11:01] Right it takes place in the same storyline was not in the trade so that it is actually from the comics but.

Denis:
[11:06] I will say that that added a lot of context for
call him beat everyone up no one could stand a chance to him so Superman would be the only one who could so you like oh s*** here comes this is the one guy who could fight them because everyone else lost so
I do really like that they threw in the Justice League like all my fears were washed away very quickly as though is that was unraveling.

John:
[11:30] Yeah I agree I agree completely they handled it really well and was it was made that impact the end
I will say there was one I was wanting one visual in the movie and it didn’t happen but it’s okay I still love to otherwise in the consequences of scrape scene where when they actually the actual death happens if Superman and doomsday it like there’s no
meredith siblings coming down to double fist on the doomsday induces got an elbow bone up to him.

Kenric:
[11:55] Hunt the Tuesday.

John:
[11:57] China’s great like this great one seeing it have that actually seen at the end was a little different but I didn’t way they handled it made a lot of sense you know.

Kenric:
[12:05] Twenty pounds and so are they breaks his neck.

John:
[12:09] That and then he do same beds that you’re getting in better things worse chest.

Kenric:
[12:13] Yeah yeah i was like both hook up with the cd is it was kinda comical the way to what is that was neck turned all the way around you’re just like what the fuck.

John:
[12:23] Is it.

Denis:
[12:25] Didn’t in the comic her she say something to him like like you can rest now or something like i’ve think i remember reading that nerve that singing a little more powerful with with her with him in her arms and i remembering that incorrectly i think that’s what she said.

John:
[12:39] What is that i miss you.

Denis:
[12:40] Something like you can rest now or something.

John:
[12:43] Yeah it was something that you can rest now you can sleep now where the job is done or something so much final line to say it’s okay for him to be done with a fight but in the time of the Super Power of what I mean to handle that seemed pretty well-liked with lowest the end.

Kenric:
[12:55] I’ve never met anybody that like the comic books as much as you do Johnny the story,
yeah this particular story like so many people that I grew up with her just like it’s okay Mickey and then,
yeah I mean there’s like The Death of Superman and then.

Denis:
[13:11] Do you think that’s cuz people are jaded though.

Kenric:
[13:13] Yeah we all be at definitely definitely in a lot of people that i knew that i hung out with their comma collectors are pissed off that they brought him back so soon,
you know we’ve had this conversation before silly to get this like being a dead horse by now but it’s it’s it’s it’s from its,
not funny you know it’s refreshing to see somebody that was like I like listening to people that love something you know what I mean and then I can generally you can definitely tell that they love talking about this and,
There’s an opportunity for him to like talk about literally his favorite story line ever written in comic continuity with about his favorite character and now they’ve done a movie that completely did the whole thing Justice that you just don’t
get very often.

John:
[13:57] Yeah you don’t and I kind of think that they wanted to just do it that’s with my movie just use this as your blueprint like don’t f*** it up.

Denis:
[14:02] I like a live-action.

Kenric:
[14:04] They should do that it would be really good because the whole fight scene I mean that’s just,
it was it’s like I’m not going to I’m not going to lie but it was it was it was so fun to watch the just a fight scene could you just like.

John:
[14:19] One like Jerry O’Connell who play who does the voice of Superman did such a good job of capturing like the essence of Superman in these movies and I just I just I just think they did a great job on that like,
remember when I was a kid we in this world like none of my friends worked on it looks really like this story cuz they thought I was giving you like you sell your friend and,
I got that and I kind of I kind of thought the same way to work on the outside of God that’s been stupid but I read all the time.

Kenric:
[14:43] It’s not that it’s stupid or that Superman stupid or anything like that but it is very gimmicky it’s like let’s do the death of humanity do it and it was all over TV there was news reports yeah there was news reports.

Denis:
[14:57] Johnny was.

Kenric:
[14:58] Yeah it’s not here.

John:
[15:00] Go back to the person in the cali book world at the time you was the biggest thing ever.

Denis:
[15:03] This is true he is he is the first he was the first superhero death no one in really die before that right.

John:
[15:10] Name one other comic book death that it’ll be on the cover of Time Magazine those on the news not that.

Kenric:
[15:14] Come of that but that’s what that three people what that’s what minutes of gimmicky right they knew that they could capture that.

John:
[15:20] That’s why I said it was the biggest carnival thing to ever happen at the time enough that there’s nothing that was bigger than in the 90s what they want thing.

Kenric:
[15:24] I think eight million copies sold from X-Men number one is bigger and sell that many.

John:
[15:33] Okay but back up a second it’s so evident because they made five f****** covers of it and who bought people bought five.

Kenric:
[15:39] The ones that that was there they’re called bookstore and mostest and mostest.

John:
[15:43] Peoplesearchnow for 5 covers.

Kenric:
[15:44] Sure the collectors the ones that really really wanted all but this data guy that just walked in.

John:
[15:48] White sold a million copies.

Kenric:
[15:53] That would had a big difference man they made a but they would have printed the amount that was demanded to be printed and that’s what they did that’s extra didn’t just sell a million copies overnight,
it just kept selling and selling and selling it so they just kept printing and printing and printing,
I mean I’m not doing it is great free it’s just a difference of opinion it’s really not that big a deal that’s not a big.

Denis:
[16:18] I think I think it was majorly significant in the sense that.

Kenric:
[16:21] Usually significant.

John:
[16:23] It’s way more significant than aikman.

Denis:
[16:26] It changed Comics after that like it regardless of sales and.

Kenric:
[16:29] How did it change comics.

Denis:
[16:30] Well after that superheroes could come back after death like prior to that any character who died didn’t they stay.

Kenric:
[16:37] Looking back pretty quickly.

Denis:
[16:39] Yep it was up before or after Superman Seth.

Kenric:
[16:42] Way before like 10 years before.

Denis:
[16:43] Really because everything that I had heard was that like like after that like big characters could die and come back like a lecture isn’t really as big of a character.

Kenric:
[16:52] Oh and she’s nowhere near.

Denis:
[16:53] So like i mean a big name my captain america superman wolverine characters could be killed and then like just getting they come back kinda thing after that so sexy a bad thing it’s significant the bad way but it was significance,
for that as well you know we change storytelling.

Kenric:
[17:11] Like it is a really good it’s actually really good story line and its a fun story to read and you get behind him and you get behind the whole thing i mean out of the the scene and just talk about the movie the scene where he do stay kills the pair.

Denis:
[17:25] Oh yeah that was so.

Kenric:
[17:27] Girl opened up the thing and you’re just like holy s*** you don’t mean so she you could tell she went through a massive amount of emotion right from oh my God there’s a bear thing in her and her boyfriends,
behind the tree with a freaking like a shovel or something or I can’t even what he had in his hand but she’s freaking out and then all of a sudden she hears all the sounds and she in the Bears dead and she’ll be something and she’s freaked out that you saw the Dead bear but you know in that instant she’s thinking I’m safe and then.

Denis:
[17:54] And then dead.

Kenric:
[17:57] And that freaking suit that he’s wearing with it was Psycho looking.

John:
[18:00] Yeah I got that s*** in the comics.

Kenric:
[18:01] Yes really cool.

Denis:
[18:03] I was happy with that.

Kenric:
[18:05] What’s the some they didn’t do right but you’re i wish they would not done that is there anything that they just kinda got wrong or do you think that this is like just about as perfect as you can get for something to be transferred over.

John:
[18:19] Mom.

Denis:
[18:21] I can’t think of anything i mean i read that story about a year or two years ago so i’m fonts spacing.

John:
[18:28] I can’t think everything i wanted to do for me besides maybe that the one c at the end.

Denis:
[18:32] Don’t forget the ending yeah.

John:
[18:34] Soft but no because it was it was it was really in a rock solid.

Kenric:
[18:37] Whatever the breaking of the neck.

John:
[18:39] I’ll be in a white with him out there for me.

Kenric:
[18:42] I thought that was cool I mean it I think it’s comical and Doomsday’s face when his next getting broken but I thought it was still cool.

Denis:
[18:49] Yeah I thought it was cool the only thing I wish is that it was a little more emotional it in Lois Lane that story right there.

Kenric:
[18:58] Oh so for me the most emotional part was Lois Lane throwing the Rock.

Denis:
[19:04] Yeah that was stuff that was sad and it made you feel like very like defeated in a way that she put it down or the second one she put.

John:
[19:14] The first one.

Kenric:
[19:16] It just was so weak and feeble you know.

Denis:
[19:18] Yeah that’s true,
and she’s such a strong character especially you know in relation to clark like that that their relationship is very strong like it i don’t like it like i connor image in in his life so for her to be weak like that.

Kenric:
[19:33] Yeah well showing well showing her true feelings and being just now figuring out that who he was.

Denis:
[19:41] Like the way that the handle that then him telling her in the on become a note that said i love you the other city,
you can tell her it was I really like the way they handled that and then the fact that he didn’t get to say it to her face because of that he just wrote it and had to go save the day that was all very powerful.

Kenric:
[19:59] What it’s like romance cheese but didn’t feel so much cheese.

Denis:
[20:03] It isn’t easy at all I don’t think.

John:
[20:06] Nothing right now I was watching the whole time but you know keep it all in emotional baby and super happy and super have the same time I did tear up at the end so f*** you,
so but yeah I decided to go back to that you would mention the whole like them like it’ll bring them back right away once they did but they actually do,
like they took off or more tired of playing Superman which is a big deal for a company to not print their number one selling book of the time right.

Kenric:
[20:37] Number one son but you wasn’t batman.

John:
[20:39] Mr during this run.

Kenric:
[20:40] 08 dirt during The Death of Superman yeah.

John:
[20:43] Yeah everything right so I didn’t need to stop bringing her for months all of them all of his books he had four books the time.

Kenric:
[20:50] What kind of had to,
yeah they kind of had to cuz they they they had built up all of this hype and,
all these people behind it and if they would have killed them off but then still had booked printing of storylines people would have been like what they wouldn’t have had the same impact.

John:
[21:06] When the books came back that if they picked up right after the death but they didn’t have him in it there
does putting to the Funeral For A Friend seriously could have kept printing come right in the Funeral For A Friend which doesn’t have to have mint in it had a similar impact but they chose instead have a bigger impact like me or cancel it means they canceling for 4 months I said I don’t.

Kenric:
[21:21] Yeah that they had to do that mean that that was the best way to do it.

John:
[21:25] Angry but that’s a big risk for a company not to print with a big money-maker for months you know.

Kenric:
[21:30] Haven’t had they had all these things of what his suit is going to look like when he came back.

John:
[21:34] Right right.

Denis:
[21:35] Do you think they’re going to do the the black suit in the next movie.

John:
[21:39] Miss you any better I mean they have to we don’t have to but I mean if they want to keep it as good as the first one was I mean they could they can do without the mullet right I don’t need them.

Kenric:
[21:48] The moment was so bad.

John:
[21:49] Animals of the dumbest thing ever in the college Department the moment.

Kenric:
[21:53] Kingdom Come dude I couldn’t get over the ponytail I’m like seriously the ponytail was so bad I was.

John:
[22:00] Whatever then.

Kenric:
[22:01] No didn’t last for everything guide.

John:
[22:03] Yeah yeah.

Kenric:
[22:04] I don’t know how he cut his hair.

John:
[22:05] What does the laser eyes in the mirror.

Denis:
[22:07] The other show that in the comic yeah they didn’t in Kingdom Come they shown do it then they.

Kenric:
[22:14] I don’t remember I just remember going we read it and I was like oh man that ponytail is killing me.

Denis:
[22:19] I know they show it and something him shaving and also in him cutting a ponytail or something with the laser eyes.

Kenric:
[22:26] The laser eyes.

Denis:
[22:26] Because that would be the only thing to cut his hair otherwise.

John:
[22:30] Right and how would you cut his hair.

Denis:
[22:33] Paris steel.

Kenric:
[22:34] But you’re so freaking strong that you can’t even get your haircut at at like a salon they come in there just breaking their scissors.

John:
[22:42] Desecrate Coppertone a golden age difference and I think it was Superman’s 34 or 36 what that I have I have a copy of my box over here it is Superman a barber chair reading a newspaper and the,
the guy is like cutting his hair like just broken scissors all over the floor and he can’t cut it.

Kenric:
[22:59] I was thinking was is it ran for the quest for peace of the show the single strand of hair holding up the ball.

John:
[23:04] Yeah that’s the only Lex Luthor comes back and he makes nuclear man.

Kenric:
[23:11] Yeah so bad.

John:
[23:13] Who’s now can’t in the comics yeah that they brought him in the comics yeah new friends now are coming in now in the comics is it inside men wore.

Kenric:
[23:23] Oh my God why why.

John:
[23:26] Right why we don’t we don’t need that.

Kenric:
[23:27] Like the eye it this is so cheesy but i actually loved the restaurant owner.

John:
[23:35] Oh yeah i would.

Kenric:
[23:39] Own the shack.

John:
[23:41] Yeah yeah he’s actually he’s actually one of my favorite character in the book but I can’t know what his name is.

Kenric:
[23:45] Yeah Karen was named rivers named Dennis the guy that owns the restaurant.

Denis:
[23:49] No I don’t at all.

John:
[23:51] The be the bilbo bilbo.

Denis:
[23:53] I was gonna ask you the whole like i even was cuz i had no.

Kenric:
[23:56] Yeah yeah.

John:
[23:57] To in it in the comments like cameras fucking name right now but in the comics he is always accuses me comes up as a drone the but have their belly great,
I used to think that I was that guy in the call me because I have a fat belly but,
in the comics he’s just a big Superman fight like Superman saves them sometimes becomes a big advocate for Superman to come see what your background character he’s in the depths of my story line
but he’s just this guy who is this sailor who did becomes obsessed with Superman so much to like Stewie wears t-shirts is always at Ya Superman’s awesome and has the restaurant
the horses name it’s be able to bouzouki.

Kenric:
[24:32] Yeah Big Lebowski former boxer who admires Superman.

John:
[24:37] Right he first appeared at the joseph man for twenty at a seven but.

Kenric:
[24:42] Major character someday.

John:
[24:45] Right right now I like that guy right.

Kenric:
[24:48] I like to write I just thought it was a cool way to see how the common Joe Schmo interacted and felt about Superman you know in that time line I thought it was cool.

Denis:
[24:59] I am a first
setup was a little Force but I did like it and the end there was a gun this is cool I like cuz they haven’t showed that at all in animation for the movies the way that like the characters do truly
like love him and see how better than all those other things like that’s the first time I’ve actually seen it and it felt nice to like for them to actually Express that cuz usually it’s an assumed thing that you get from the comics.

Kenric:
[25:21] Yeah yeah interaction with the general public.

Denis:
[25:24] So what did you guys think about the little call back of the you’ve got me but who’s got you thing did you catch that.

John:
[25:32] Yeah I thought that yeah that was cool.

Denis:
[25:34] I thought that was awesome there was little things like Easter egg.

Kenric:
[25:36] Call back what do you mean though.

Denis:
[25:38] In the 1st and the 1st movie when Clark saves Lois he says I got you and she goes but who’s got you.

Kenric:
[25:43] Oh yeah when she falls down the building.

Denis:
[25:45] But they switched it this switch that were is she pick got him and he said but who’s got you.

Kenric:
[25:51] That’s a good catch man I totally missed that.

John:
[25:53] That’s that’s cool I like I like I like them to do those stuff like that.

Denis:
[25:55] I laughed when I did that was a little corny but it was like a good night to the Commodore like to the old continuity.

Kenric:
[26:02] Well she just died this year too.

Denis:
[26:04] Yeah that’s true she did.

Kenric:
[26:05] It was kinda cool that’s kind of an odd margo that’s really cool actually i like that i didn’t know that the dude that you is really sad was the the scene where they’re having the funeral his parents comeuppance you know it martha’s crying.

Denis:
[26:20] That stuff is really emotional in the comic and I do feel like they did do a good job we’re laying that.

John:
[26:25] Capture pretty well yeah.

Kenric:
[26:26] Yeah it was the nice thing is they’re doing an animated movie but they didn’t treat it like an animated scene,
you better me or it’s over centralized you know it’s not overdone you know it’s very.

Denis:
[26:38] I felt cinematic more like.

Kenric:
[26:39] Yeah it felt more cinematic and if it is felt very emotional as opposed to,
hey we going to let’s make fun of this cuz I might be some kids watching it and we’ll keep it very light no no this is you know his parents not even to be able to say where his parents.

John:
[26:54] Yeah I was pretty tough I was pretty pretty.

Kenric:
[26:56] You would think at that point you know lowest part of me feels like you know Wonder Woman and all them know that that was his parents in that that time he’s dead you should go back and say hey this is his parents.

Denis:
[27:12] They still want to protect them because then they’d want to know the news media would swarm them wanting to know about him and his life and who he was as a regular person and it’s to protect them in a way to as much as they want to be there.

Kenric:
[27:26] That realistically that’s what would happen or you think you will be like oh.

Denis:
[27:29] Hell yeah he news steak is so sleazy blue.

Kenric:
[27:33] What’s the thing that get like it’s like nobody ever does has the Integrity anymore it’s like if somebody knows about somebody saying,
gonna get published and it doesn’t hurt anybody but then you know it’s like jesus christ man one one is that kinda stuff stop.

John:
[27:49] Right is crazy.

Kenric:
[27:51] This may be your item in the and maybe that the close people that know about it would be like hey let’s not.

Denis:
[27:56] I feel like they would have a private that have a private ceremony maybe like the heroes would go to go to the family and do a.

Kenric:
[28:03] It’d be vs.

Denis:
[28:05] Yeah yeah exactly one thing that was a winner out of BBS the two ceremonies juxtaposed over each other I thought that was very touching the way they handled that because.

Kenric:
[28:15] They did a really good job on.

John:
[28:16] So it didn’t suit you Fred the deaths of man in uniform friend Maurice a that I have.

Denis:
[28:21] Well I’m in the middle of a funeral for a friend and I want to die it’s boring and I.

John:
[28:24] Right because it is pretty boring yet.

Kenric:
[28:27] Oh really is not good.

John:
[28:28] I remember it’s slow.

Denis:
[28:30] It is basically all the stories and all the characters were affected by it and Susie all these random Heroes you don’t really care about
the DC’s probably pushing and trying to get into the Forefront and then you see them like affected by Superman’s death but you don’t care about these characters and it just page after page and it’s like come on I don’t care about you.

John:
[28:48] What you mean Matrix you meet Supergirl make.

Denis:
[28:50] Yeah but she shows up in the first book I mean maybe I spoiled that for myself or something but I don’t know I’m not into a Funeral For a Friend.

John:
[28:59] What what I’m getting to his I know there’s a cover of like eventually Superman 498 or something it is one of those once maybe it’s Superman 76 issue number but there’s a cover of the superheroes like Batman.

Denis:
[29:15] I love that imagery that’s so touching and Powerful.

John:
[29:18] Happened in the story as well was just was such as to cover doesn’t the it cartoon it’s not that is totally carry and its first responders carrier instead.

Denis:
[29:25] The funeral all the heroes were there the cut it was that was the cover like the splash page opening and then flip it open and then they’re all there they the people arriving different heroes are talking people who like,
and really no not wellman talk about that shit and they do carry the casket i think i think i mean that was immediately the focus on the.

John:
[29:49] Carried i’m disappears carry on but in the movie it’s.

Denis:
[29:50] But now you’re now you’re getting me questioning it I don’t know I asked to have it bent funny I can pull it up.

John:
[29:56] Cuz in the movie it’s it’s it’s firefighters and and policeman.

Kenric:
[29:59] Kind of like that firefighters and police responders though.

John:
[30:02] I did that the change they made and I think they made that change the can’t I can’t remember the pilot but I like the fact that it’s firefighters and policemen carry and purses.

Kenric:
[30:10] My fair imagery of superman is the alex ross painting of him in front of all the first responders and i think it just says wow.

John:
[30:20] Yeah just says why was it the crypto and is looking up the bed and so it just is that was for that was actually came out in 2011 because I’m just one for the 911 DC comic book finally did.

Kenric:
[30:30] It looks amazing it’s one of the best.

John:
[30:32] That’s an amazing painting.

Kenric:
[30:33] The best ones i think you can see when it comes to superman.

John:
[30:37] I agree so as you probably know I haven’t mentioned this yet both you probably realize anybody could ever pay attention to our show this to me before probably knows why this movie was so touching for me,
to the one the first thing my dad Bond over with Comics you know it’s the whole time or just thinking about like what my dad think of this movie.

Denis:
[30:53] It’s a shame that he didn’t get a chance to see it.

John:
[30:55] Exactly and he actually paso before minister came out right never hit your blossom and he got he saw us about returns but i really did i enjoyed it.

Kenric:
[31:02] I like that one actually I wish they would have just made it part of that the Universe and in just done it I don’t know I thought it was good but whatever.

John:
[31:12] Yeah but you know cuz that’s what I do while I’m trying not to you cry when my wife sleeping next to me at the one the morning when I watch this movie cuz you guys for free to watch NFL tonight.

Kenric:
[31:24] No in fort you would told you to watch the next day you’re the one of those who and what i want to right now give doing it.

Denis:
[31:30] No I guilted a man I was saying like you’re the big fan why are you watching it I mean I was really bad dream about it.

John:
[31:36] And you guys made some bad if I didn’t know that I had to watch the next day or something bad would happen too much stuff out.

Denis:
[31:42] You were the last one to watch it dude what the f***.

John:
[31:44] I know right how was I the last one to see it out of the three of us but hey I saw it.

Denis:
[31:48] I didn’t even watch a day of either so you’re way behind.

Kenric:
[31:52] I want you to death.

John:
[31:53] As i was busy i write a super busy i been so busy.

Denis:
[31:56] Nothing is nothing is more important than the death of Superman.

John:
[31:59] Watching cartoons for a podcast about movies and comic books right.

Kenric:
[32:05] That was like it’s but they did do a really good job in that movie man I mean I watched it twice.

John:
[32:09] They did such a good job but I want to I’m I’m I’m ready to watch the game with the kids.

Denis:
[32:12] You’ve watched it twice already.

Kenric:
[32:13] Yeah i watch it twice already.

Denis:
[32:15] I I have to say straight up this was probably my favorite DC animation today like the idol there’s things I love about a lot of the other ones and I love the Batman Son of Batman and Batman versus Robin I like Justice League War.

Kenric:
[32:29] I’m at Batman ninjas the bomb.

John:
[32:31] Is your favorite.

Denis:
[32:33] Best one actually am i’m just getting on the best new frontiers fantastic there’s a lot of fantastic ones but no this one just stop sold i was in i was hook the entire fucking move.

John:
[32:44] I was not want it to end.

Denis:
[32:46] Yeah it was so good like i’m leaving vegas from and i don’t even care of it happens so that movie was so good that i don’t need more things you know what i mean.

John:
[32:55] It was on the same boat I love the movie I mean I’m a big fan of the story obviously cuz of my,
everything I said and the whole time I was like Wow there,
he was just it was really good and um what i want ask if you do this what are and you to can hayes units for both of you,
connection.

Kenric:
[33:23] I’m going to shut up.

John:
[33:24] So what do you think of okay good perfect,
i should’ve out at idle sued provide when you turn off either and you know the story behind you ever but they they they do a lot of seeds for returned servicemen and this one like billy groundwork for for steel for super boy for eradicator and for cyber superman.

Denis:
[33:42] Oh yeah I saw I saw the steal stuff like immediately.

John:
[33:44] So did you catch all the seat aprils workers and did you did you think of that like it was a.

Denis:
[33:49] Will they did a little post-credit things did you guys stay through.

John:
[33:52] List the irs for prosperous seems.

Denis:
[33:53] And of annoying but i cut after i caught the first moment okay get in early in the show was eradicator in superboy cool cool.

John:
[33:59] I think it was it was just complete fanservice because if you didn’t do that they put any teasers in for that whatever money I get it and then add me things for me for the movie right,
in the movie they have a lot of teas like to talk about is coming to get any of them but there is the hank henshaw out the spaceship that i have by the by doomsday that’s that’s side work superman.

Denis:
[34:19] Go that cyborg I didn’t know that okay.

John:
[34:22] Becomes ever superman right at that.

Kenric:
[34:24] Oh I didn’t even I just thought if they were just showing a guy that was putting too much weight on too.

John:
[34:28] Now he’s he’s taking jointly and he blames the blame super.

Kenric:
[34:31] Idiot man the whole time watching it it was just like dude you’re a fanatic like a fanatical Jesus guy you know what I mean,
yeah it was way heavy-handed but now it kind of makes sense,
that they’re laying the groundwork for Cyborg Superman but the same time I’m just like to drink idiot if you think that someone’s going to always save you over everything that happened to.

John:
[34:53] Blame superman for the death of his wife and for what happened to him right in the ledger for super boy cuz the one of the scenes were like just let summers ago down into one of the things are show what about him to test if there’s.

Denis:
[35:04] Yeah that one.

Kenric:
[35:06] Yeah that was i did see that when i didn’t.

John:
[35:07] Black and red which is not cool cuz that’s why there is a boy yeah connor can’t,
okay you it’d be had to john henry irons that the scientists are labs with sly stone keep him steal and then eradicator the kind of liked it was.

Kenric:
[35:28] In bed is that what that was about with the cut scenes with the guy that gets that gets lynched.

John:
[35:33] Lynched went.

Kenric:
[35:36] Yeah they’re doing cut scenes with the.

John:
[35:40] What’s the same movie.

Denis:
[35:42] Are you talking about New Frontier cuz that’s the s*** that happened.

Kenric:
[35:44] Oh that’s in the comic book.

Denis:
[35:48] That’s the new frontier comic man that’s a different show.

Kenric:
[35:50] Yeah yeah yeah yeah,
because cuz I got to be honest I’ll bring it up I need to say it now so I don’t forget but that dentist confuse me so much,
understand what i was reading me understand what i was reading based on what happened but i understand why it was in the story line.

Denis:
[36:09] If you zero.

Kenric:
[36:11] Was there.

Denis:
[36:12] Part new frontier.

Kenric:
[36:13] Is i get that i didn’t get was it didn’t get any value add from it.

Denis:
[36:19] Which part are you talking about in new frontier sarina.

Kenric:
[36:22] The New Frontier the whole lynching scene and talking about the whole thing and maybe I’m not maybe I didn’t think about it long enough.

Denis:
[36:29] We’ll talk about that that on that show but there’s a lot of cuz there’s a lot of significance about the the world at the time and and what does superheroes places because of that.

Kenric:
[36:38] I’d.

Denis:
[36:39] It didn’t really dress in the animation at all which kind of bothered me it was very was just on the TV and then the flash Cuts in and says he was gone but yeah that was Superman Man.

Kenric:
[36:54] I get it now i was like totally had in my head for some reason it to let the kids you said john henry so that the matt was john henry and and you for.

Denis:
[37:04] But it’s John is that the same that’s on the same.

John:
[37:08] John Henry irons.

Denis:
[37:09] Now you’re confusing me Jesus.

Kenric:
[37:11] Yeah well that’s why because john certain what john henry irons and i was like oh and then all the sudden i just got done reading new frontier on thursday and then i watched debt to sue man that night.

Denis:
[37:22] Oh yeah that’s that doesn’t help that makes it super confusing,
not to derail the thing that you’re talking about with the little seeds but I have funeral friend open in front of me and I actually don’t see that
cover at all it’s the cover of the trade going through each page i’m not seeing it as an official cover of any of them
and it looks like the heroes get together and talk off to the side of the funeral but it doesn’t look like they’re part of the actual per session or whatever that’s called,
they’re not there at yeah from what I can tell I mean I’m having a hard time sleeping through this is not downloading all the way,
but yeah I don’t think so I don’t think it was just the kind of more of the way there.

John:
[38:04] Like the track number one.

Denis:
[38:07] The trade cover cuz it opens up with the paramedics like the checking his vitals and realizing that he’s actually dead in the middle more than klara martha and john,
crying cuz it’s on the TV and so they go through that whole thing and then I’m not even seeing the funeral for a bit.

John:
[38:23] Yeah it’s daytime it’s a cover of the trade I was messing up this is not the actual official 10 comics is not one of covers.

Denis:
[38:30] The official cover of the comic had Shazam Wonder Woman Supergirl Flash and Green Lantern standing over on Memorial yeah yeah that’s the actual comic.

John:
[38:36] Wright Memorial whatever yeah yeah cool yeah okay so.

Denis:
[38:44] So but then in the movie now I can’t remember in the movie The Heroes were there or just Batman.

John:
[38:49] Noticed the heroes were fighting in the early the movie are all they’re not all does not like a ton of here there’s just the Justice League the current as I was there up until.

Kenric:
[38:57] This Hawkman is Green Lantern Flash Batman Wonder Woman.

John:
[39:01] Yeah and its first responders are caring about on coming off windsor to.

Kenric:
[39:05] Aquaman Aquaman in this movie,
yeah I mean they use a really really well and that host underwater scene was was excellent.

Denis:
[39:14] Yamira in all the big they tied in the Throne of Atlantis decently without it being annoying you know there’s that that was that continuity but I did I did think about the fact that you hated that movie.

John:
[39:25] The trench roller the stroller stroller called in there that doomsday kills first makers first lands.

Kenric:
[39:34] Is that the one is that the one where he’s does he have one hand.

John:
[39:38] No no it didn’t I just say it’s the second movie in this in the storyline where takes place after war and it’s like the trench flowers come up and it ends with like Aquaman having a shark bite somebody in half minutes it’s pretty bad it’s not very good.

Denis:
[39:52] I don’t know why but I really like that animation I don’t know why you hate it was the first time I actually liked Aquaman in my entire life and I watch that movie in like pretty cool.

John:
[40:02] Everybody every strongly worded out and a maker to the movie to ever has like everybody has sue.

Denis:
[40:07] Oh yeah.

John:
[40:08] Muscles and all their faces are x small like like that.

Denis:
[40:11] I forgot about.

Kenric:
[40:13] He had big bodies.

Denis:
[40:14] The same thing in the flash point movie which is actually not as good as i am is a remote.

John:
[40:18] But this will be right but this will be takes it to the extreme as far as the muscles in the tiny faces in the weird looking people.

Denis:
[40:25] I forgot about that no you’re right.

Kenric:
[40:27] If every few i go back and watch a gig that’s been like it like a year to use that’s in it under mat.

John:
[40:30] It washes i want to get a computer to i don’t i’ve never seen this one i’ve heard things about eyes are watering okay i’ve tried i’ve tried to block seven and reset it like it.

Kenric:
[40:41] X-Rated vodka that doesn’t Aquaman look like Superman but just with blonde hair.

Denis:
[40:49] There no.

Kenric:
[40:51] I swear to God that they’re using the same like they’re using a template or something and they look almost exactly the same.

Denis:
[40:58] I mean they have the bad habit of doing that in animation I just don’t remember if they did that with this.

Kenric:
[41:03] Is that the same eyebrows and stuff and they just made everything blonde with the orange shirt and green yeah.

John:
[41:06] Yeah there’s change the color changes things of Suits has chops all right he has his chops when I was face is different.

Denis:
[41:14] Is a man’s man that’s why i gotta say that the one thing i love about these dc animations is that they’re all,
pretty much rewatchable except for Batman Ninja and I guess maybe that movie,
but like the those batman movies are great that the just single ones are great like i can go back and watch some i feel like this one’s gonna be a hundred percent rewatching
and I want to see this earlier when you were
the fight scene how like it was just so fun one thing that came to my mind was the two of them smashed through a building just like Man of Steel and,
i loved it i was like you know what like this this kind of validates for me man of steel
that they would cut gonna thrash you things cuz of that if the fight was this bad he wouldn’t have a chance to stop it from going to a building.

John:
[42:02] No you wouldn’t not at all.

Kenric:
[42:04] Why you couldn’t you couldn’t stop it from going through building.

Denis:
[42:06] No cuz I’m in this particular enemy kills him so they get him going through a building is like he can’t help it so I really like that I appreciate it a lot.

Kenric:
[42:17] Eight one on his speech to home after she does she tells me gotta finish it.

John:
[42:22] Face it don’t don’t what only don’t let him went on liver some like that you have to do is have to do.

Denis:
[42:27] Oh yeah she said something about like like not like holding.

John:
[42:32] Yeah yeah cuz,
after second right of a sea of one will which is being down ends like to think that the c team animation team drew this one like to sell as like what room also becomes like this crappy of looney tunes drawing and then goes to.

Denis:
[42:53] Oh when she was beaten down that look really bad that was like lazy and that should have looked really powerful and I was really bummed.

John:
[42:59] And then came back and looked really good except it’s zoomed in on her that one seems like she’s beating down I think what did like the little brother draw that’s what the hell.

Denis:
[43:06] I noticed that it bothered me because this Animation Studio is the same one that does Korra and stuff and or did Cora and it they have a very particular look that always looks very polished and awesome so that’s stuck out like a sore thumb to me too I told you.

John:
[43:19] I’m going to steal that I’m going to get still all that picture and put it in the in this to show that might be like you know I won’t make that though.

Kenric:
[43:29] You gotta do something.

Denis:
[43:31] Criminal justice.

John:
[43:32] Coolness.

Kenric:
[43:34] Astoria here’s here’s are hits re view of death do and it has a nice picture one on.

John:
[43:40] When a horrible picture Wonder Woman.

Denis:
[43:42] John I’m super surprised that you didn’t want to reach into the world to steal books with this move.

John:
[43:48] I want to so bad but I’m trying that you’ve already got me by an Omnibus now and like getting there,
three.

Denis:
[44:02] I no longer want to buy single like floppy Comics anymore because they’re extremely expensive and you never know which ones are going to actually be worth it or like a apple book for 30 bucks I can,
new frontier i buy cannot find it’s out of print it was a retail the fifty dollars i can find one for less than seventy dollars and was watching one today on e bay that was thirty dollars and i would look away for ten minutes and was it sold for seventy dollars.

John:
[44:27] It’s crazy.

Denis:
[44:29] But those are worth something they’re worth a lot so they’re kind of worth.

Kenric:
[44:31] Trade paperback.

Denis:
[44:32] No it was no no this was a deluxe deluxe edition they haven’t made it on the most version the the absolute version is well over two hundred bucks.

John:
[44:42] Models books two is even if they’re nt in if they don’t go up in value are they stay the same you get so much more out of books with that it was but inside of them you know it’s a whole story there’s some there’s back on information there’s other stuff to it that’s great.

Denis:
[44:55] So much addition be careful with absolute absolute actually just have the the single story selective admitted at the superman absolute it would have just the course story like,
nothing else none of the tie ends none of the funeral for a friend so but on the buses have all the times they have everything.

John:
[45:13] And I have extra stuff to it like I like 20 for the money.

Denis:
[45:16] In a by the death of superman on the bus cuz i’m an idiot.

Kenric:
[45:19] I like this is why I like comic college is for this kind of stuff.

Denis:
[45:22] Yeah I like it too but I like to have a physical version also because I’m fat and I’m not collecting like I can’t help my.

Kenric:
[45:29] Tell you can help it i do that.

John:
[45:30] An episode about the heart that the joys in hands of collecting some day and also be on that one to.

Denis:
[45:36] Oh yeah we can talk about how I’m broke because of it.

Kenric:
[45:40] Right there with yeah i get it i have a hard time like ice comic book that i want that’s like it becomes an obsession,
what can I do to get this book so it’s $1,000 I can figure.

Denis:
[45:53] Is there many do you have a list of comic what I did was create a list of these are the only ones allowed to buy if it’s not on this list don’t buy it idiot that’s my don’t buy an idiot list,
because otherwise I will find I’ll just find a random like all this one’s hard to find and it’s affordable I’m going to spend $60 on it right now that’s not.

Kenric:
[46:11] Ask me be logical messes.

Denis:
[46:13] No that doesn’t happen.

Kenric:
[46:15] It’s like a it’s it’s really is ran it just depend like cars i like like i just got john hacks number one from like nineteen seventy two or whatever,
and.

Denis:
[46:25] Need to read that by your recommendation i’m i’m interested.

Kenric:
[46:29] Jonah Hex.

Denis:
[46:31] Told me I’m one of your shows when you talk about a moment yeah that sounds like a character mean.

Kenric:
[46:35] Was it one more time when we were comparing him to The Punisher.

Denis:
[46:38] I think so maybe.

John:
[46:39] The phone shows the syringes you know about the lincoln ls soup pri podcast can can i actual working on me so have a somewhere a giant spread sheet of first appearances my key books like for collecting,
abilities,
i like we got it got pretty deep with a dc marvel other flight first appearance is key issues for a ton of books and actually use that list on multiple by by state,
go to draw so they have the first appearance pulled out and buy it it’s pretty nice but the end up being us is going looking for his first appearance of the spending way too much money on these come,
we’re only to.

Kenric:
[47:13] Right to be fair is right after your dad died so you’re just like i’m gonna get everything.

John:
[47:16] I was all into it so I bought somebody, cuz my dad passed away was it was unhealthy but.

Denis:
[47:24] We were honoring him and away with that I mean to make.

John:
[47:26] The do’s and half max your credit cards by compost totally wave on my dad but.

Kenric:
[47:32] This is why I felt that honor let me tell you.

John:
[47:34] She was very supportive but ultimate only I was a dumbass and I agreed so,
I don’t say bye in coming to the way I did it right as far as s*** ton of stuff and maximize PayPal credit card twice by account it was probably not the best thing to do.

Denis:
[47:49] Yeah there’s that there’s a healthy way to collect and I’m trying to learn that healthy way to collect and then there’s the unhealthy Benji addiction side where you’re basically have like an eating disorder for, collecting you know like it’s that bad.

John:
[48:02] I was a little time when I was I was constantly bidding on probably 50 to a hundred different books on eBay every.

Denis:
[48:08] Holy f*** really.

John:
[48:09] And they be.

Denis:
[48:10] Yeah you did have an addiction dude.

John:
[48:11] By the by an alpine loss i would have had a thing on my phone for craig’s list like email me or message me whatever over books what up on crisis i go trying to quicken it was bad house by books to buy books is a white.

Denis:
[48:25] Really i really am an enabler right now and i’m like a dude look at this.

John:
[48:29] Enable you that you can use a bad one here not me.

Denis:
[48:30] When you want to buy a don’t yet Death of Superman steelbook isn’t it pretty.

John:
[48:36] Pretty so pretty.

Kenric:
[48:37] I didn’t even know still bookstore thing until you showed us those.

Denis:
[48:40] Yeah i sold a senior pics for my collection there there addicting because they do go up in value of their super nice looking a lot of them have super unique are.

Kenric:
[48:49] Will you did send that picture to a group thing.

Denis:
[48:51] That’s not my collection that’s the three i own.

Kenric:
[48:55] Oh my God.

John:
[48:57] They’re sexy and that the Ducks grandmother was really nice.

Kenric:
[49:00] It does I love that picture with the cape blowing in the wind.

Denis:
[49:03] Oh dude so before I ever read a Superman comic or comics in general when I was a kid I used to draw Spider-Man and like Rogue and all my little comic book crushes like we’re over the huge one right but like,
cover stuck in my mind i think was like i don’t number hold maybe ten or eleven but i drew that cover because it was so like,
like such a profound but imagery to me yeah.

John:
[49:29] It is really is.

Denis:
[49:30] I still have that sketch I found it recently only s*** I should post it on mine.

Kenric:
[49:35] I think for me that’s one of the things that’s cool with comic books is the iconic iconic some of these characters have become and then the imagery that they that you see and how it affects people in different ways,
you know that it is sticks with you it’s just not very many mediums that do it the same way.

Denis:
[49:53] I think that’s one of the most iconic images from a comic that I can think of other than obviously like the Spider-Man 300 whatever you like,
or like the first yeah or like the first edition you like the first appearance of Superman and Batman those covers we’ve seen.

Kenric:
[50:10] I think it’s the age to when you’re collecting one like,
your most impressionable moments of time of when you’re collecting comic books like for me it’s the Wolverine covers of his miniseries,
those,
from easy add that i receive walking in the compaq stores and see those on your wall because as soon as those came out they were like ten fifteen bucks a piece,
like a week after they’re out on the on the you know they’re already pulled off the shelf and put in bags and stuck up on the wall and just walking in and seeing those you know those for covers was just,
you know that sticks with me till this day you know.

Denis:
[50:48] Mine was spawn number 1 when I was a kid I was it was too expensive for me to buy the store was selling it for $40 or some crap and like I would I’d go to the comic book store and I just look at it in like one day I will own you you know like in Wayne’s World.

Kenric:
[51:03] Man you should have cut you should have called me at like 80 of those stupid things.

John:
[51:09] Airport and showing times in its I bought a short box full of swan number one for $20.

Denis:
[51:13] Are you serious cause I don’t I probably spent 40 or 50 on it then for my copy.

Kenric:
[51:17] What you know what R Us over at Mill Geek Comics has a great story about spawn and the reason that there’s there’s so many here in Washington state because.

Denis:
[51:28] I think you shared it on on previous podcast in you I think of the story sounds familiar yeah yeah.

Kenric:
[51:31] Did I the fact that that he released a whole bunch of money I need to have them on haven’t talked about it cuz it’s it’s it’s pretty interesting basically we just have a ton here and watching State because Todd McFarlane’s company is here and they released him all when he wants he was like.

Denis:
[51:47] Well in Simi in Simi Valley California we got Le parently 3 copies because everyone marked it up at my stores.

John:
[51:54] Mark appears on to lucky i don’t wanna came out it was with no pay a week or two was due to a ten twenty or book news is up to fifty six dollars for a while around here seven it would’ve quick here.

Kenric:
[52:05] Two years later it was like nothing.

Denis:
[52:07] You know what else was super marked up that I remember was both The Death of Superman and that so that was the black plastic one and then the other white plastic one both of them were marked up.

John:
[52:17] In the white was turned Residential Treatment 500 both those were I mean so you can buy those all day long places for cheap but like even a conventions they’re still thick $20 a piece,
and to pay it.

Denis:
[52:31] Really.

John:
[52:32] Yeah people will pay.

Denis:
[52:34] I have a couple copies of that white one I should just rush to sell them.

John:
[52:38] The White and the black people will pay $20 apiece form at a show and I thought you were buying them back there cuz it said iconic in the comics inside but that black cover with the.

Kenric:
[52:49] Open it just don’t open it.

John:
[52:51] And if if if you want your grated they take the take out about.

Denis:
[52:54] I have a Ren and Stimpy that has sent thing inside of it and I didn’t open it but I’m sure it’s destroyed now because that’s something was probably full of like terrible oils that would just destroyed the paper.

Kenric:
[53:06] The one thing I can say though I think we’re all agreeance was one of the best adaptations from a comic book series to a animated movie.

Denis:
[53:15] Yeah one of the best DC animated movies today.

John:
[53:17] Which is a high bark is there any reason to break solid the most part.

Denis:
[53:20] Yeah.

Kenric:
[53:21] Yeah today go that is a show.

John:
[53:22] The show they could that is for joining us man appreciate that.

Kenric:
[53:26] Think stanford for join us as it was awesome again and.

John:
[53:28] Waiting for the top tennis players showed his stuff real quick I’m sorry go ahead then.

Kenric:
[53:32] But i wasn’t done at ed’s gonna think he take a listen for next i’ve that is on one to go over the new frontier comp.

Denis:
[53:43] Animation both of them.

Kenric:
[53:44] Yeah anime.

Denis:
[53:45] All of that.

John:
[53:46] But then i finished reading it something i get only have way done.

Denis:
[53:49] You start finished we’re going to record it tonight and you haven’t finished it.

John:
[53:53] So glad we won tonight.

Kenric:
[53:56] Use the word.

John:
[53:58] I’m the worst.

Denis:
[53:59] Man.

Kenric:
[54:01] Listen to anything it doesn’t listen to any podcast because I got a great podcast but does he listen to it.

John:
[54:07] All my secrets don’t tell my secrets.

Denis:
[54:09] I had Comic-Con all kinds of crazy stuff I fit in there for this for us to do the show and you still haven’t done it just hissed man.

John:
[54:17] Scores you tell us about your show and break people find you online.

Denis:
[54:22] Um so i just recently started a podcast with my buddy roberto you guys talked about it and thank you thank you you guys talk about it on here before we do a show.

John:
[54:33] I just all those ones are there.

Denis:
[54:35] Oh you have now cuz you were catching up recently.

John:
[54:36] It does not work.

Denis:
[54:39] Yeah so we talked about it’s called that thing you made and basically what we’re trying to do is talk about things from the creators,
how things are made either from plush toys and Comics movies whatever any kind of nerdy thing,
and we actually recently did podcast on Superman on the day,
The Death of Superman came out that was not intentional but it happened they came out and we’re talking about the Superman ever won the Michael Michael.

John:
[55:08] Ominous.

Denis:
[55:08] Brian yeah that guy his his run and also Superman and general so it’s the same kind of vein of what’s goes on here.

John:
[55:15] Does a good episode man has a really good episode.

Denis:
[55:17] Thank you like it you guys definitely inspired us to do this I always wanted to do it but until I started listening to you guys it was kind of a back-burner project so.

John:
[55:26] Okay i’m about to inspire chambord.

Denis:
[55:28] I did a show with you and I was like oh my God I could do this let’s do it let’s just f****** do it,
so yeah it’s similar vein you guys are like I like your show better than mine just be honest.

Kenric:
[55:37] Lol you guys got a great show i love you guys so.

Denis:
[55:40] And then i also have my own you know brand with or in comics and what not according stuck com you can supply cuz that thing you may dot com or check out my arts and member ch at corcoran dot com.

Kenric:
[55:53] Will you go guys,
oh check out the websites check out that thing you made with with dennis and roberto i think you actually really really enjoy listening to their
how they how they view everything it’s actually really interesting you guys give away some some Trade Secrets I think on if you want to be somebody that is selling a product.

Denis:
[56:13] Our next shows by kick starters and we talk about like everything we went through on kick starter bike and river has a kick starter coming up so he’s gone to
to give is much like kind of background info in and trade secrets as we can but keep it like an actual conversation with your guys show.

John:
[56:28] Vacuum copper II.

Denis:
[56:30] Jackboy.

Kenric:
[56:33] So Johnny and I just like for some reason distinctively know that you’re still talking so we don’t say anything it’s so what you stop talking and then you don’t say anything or like oh wait a minute.

John:
[56:46] Write out a bunch of times or recording so I just let me just let it go TK back in time I’ll be able to come back in now.

Denis:
[56:53] Only with you guys is that happened with me Roberto it’s fine I don’t get it whatever.

Kenric:
[56:58] So you guys go.

John:
[56:59] I was in the mail truck with my next bill so.

Kenric:
[57:01] That what I just got to say.

Denis:
[57:03] No one wants to spell John.

Kenric:
[57:04] Anywhere that podcaster.

John:
[57:06] It’s my talk-to-text on Twitter response or country can even wants his welcome to gmail.com website that be hot. Net if you want to give us a phone call and voicemail at 707-656-2080 again 707-656-2080.

Denis:
[57:18] They will never do anything without ever to have you.

Kenric:
[57:24] Yeah we play we play munchos.

Denis:
[57:26] No you don’t what shows.

John:
[57:27] Yeah thanks leslie mad wasn’t with with all the shows there.

Denis:
[57:28] Give me the show Numbers oh okay that’s it though that’s all you’ve done.

John:
[57:34] Whatever you say and I guess don’t take out Genesis an ass but.

Kenric:
[57:39] Yeah we’re trying to build an audience thanks Dennis.

John:
[57:41] Thanks a lot and that’s it so we’re out I’m going to bed now.

Kenric:
[57:46] Hey guys don’t forget to open your mind and.

John:
[57:49] Lemoore CA.

Kenric:
[57:50] What was funny who knew the with the.

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