Meredith Finch – Book of Ruth! Wonder Woman! Rose! Conan Valeria!

Casey and Kenric got to sit down and chat with Book of Ruth writer/creator Meredith Finch! She’s also worked on some great titles like Wonder Woman, Rose, Conan, Little Mermaid. She’s worked for DC Comics, Zenoscope, Image, Dynamite and more! This episode ends with Kenric deciding to get his 80 year old mother a comic, cause it’s never too late to start reading comics!

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Meredith Finch Interview


[00:00:00] Kenric: all right, guys. Thank you so much for coming back and today on the show, we are super lucky because. Well, she wrote, present a scope. She wrote, she actually got to do projects with her husband, David on wonder woman. She had her own creator owned comic with image in the title Rose, which was amazing. And now she had a wildly successful Kickstarter campaign promoting the book, Ruth Meredith Finch.
Thank you so much for coming on.
Meredith Finch: Thank you so much for having me.
Kenric: get everything right?
Meredith Finch: I think so. Yeah. Sounds good.
Kenric: good. Sometimes you never know. Cause you know, you start doing research with somebody and you write things down and, and fortunately, or unfortunately, uh, one of the bigger ones out there is Wikipedia and you never know what you’re going to get with Wikipedia, you know?
Meredith Finch: Well, there is a film producer, somebody out there apparently in Michigan, who also has the name Meredith Finch. And so [00:01:00] somebody, somebody tagged me in a Facebook post about this Detroit or Michigan thing. And I couldn’t. Untag myself. I’m like, it’s not, I’m not, I’m the wrong Meredith Finch. I haven’t done anything in movies
Kenric: Not yet.
Casey: Okay.
Meredith Finch: or person is missing out on her chance.
She probably knows Amy. She gets tagged all the time for like writing Rose or wonder woman or Conan. So
Kenric: I didn’t do any of
Meredith Finch: we bear.
Kenric: So I read a story about you and your husband, and this was in a scope and he actually traded covers to try to get you your first chance.
Meredith Finch: He totally did. Yes.
Kenric: So how’d that come about? Yeah, that’s awesome.
Meredith Finch: I really did. I’ve always written for myself and, it’s sort of one of those, it’s the medium that I use most often when I’m. I’m struggling with something personally, and I really need to sort through it. [00:02:00] And, I had had, a personal situation where a very good friend of mine had been in a very serious accident and broken her neck.
And I was just doing some writing about it and David read it. And that moment he, he sort of, he said, this is it. The kids are old enough. You’re really, really good. And. You need to be writing professionally. So he kind of approached them scope and came home from my convention. And so guess what, you’re going to be writing for some scope.
My wife,
Kenric: Have you written anything in the comic book medium before that?
Meredith Finch: no,
Kenric: that’s awesome. Well,
Meredith Finch: not a thing. He, I was a little fledgling burden. He kicked me out of the nest hard.
Kenric: yeah, that’s awesome though. What gives somebody like it? His caliber and his he’s not going to put his name out there. For anybody let alone his wife, if he doesn’t believe that that person’s going to do [00:03:00] a hundred percent where he thinks they can do. So. That’s I think that’s awesome.
Meredith Finch: no, I think he, he definitely, you know, he risked his reputation and a certain amount of yeah. Is his standing and we need to do that. So hopefully I’ve lived up to his faith in me.
Kenric: yeah, I’m sure. I mean, I th I feel like you’ve, you’re all over the place. Go ahead, Casey.
Casey: Yeah, your work speaks for itself, and you’ve really kind of proven yourself as a writer and creator in your own. Right. what was your first exposure to comics? Like what got you into the medium itself?
Meredith Finch: you know, I would have to say part of it was Dave’s run on forever evil with Jeff Johns. the, because for a long time he would keep pushing comics at me. And I would keep saying to him, no, no, honey, why would I read a comic that I could read in like two minutes when I can read a book that will take me hours?
I didn’t understand. How to read a comment. I would just go from word balloon [00:04:00] to word balloon, and that’s really not how you read a comic. I didn’t understand looking at the art and seeing the visual story. So it wasn’t, it wasn’t until I, I was watching David draw those, those for every evil pages and that.
The relationship, between Lex Luther and bizarro that Jeff Johns wrote into that story was just so powerful and it spoke to me so strongly and I thought, okay, well maybe, maybe there is a comic that I could read at some point. And then one day I was sitting down in Dave’s office, waiting for him to finish up a page.
cause sometimes we’ll go for lunch and talk about stuff. And I was flipping through a Kevin Smith Daredevil book and that was, I just couldn’t put it. He was like, I think he was ready to go for lunch and like, yeah, just a minute. I just couldn’t put it down. And I think there.
Kenric: that’s awesome.
Meredith Finch: There’s a gateway comic for everybody.
And, and I always tell people when they say I don’t really like my [00:05:00] girlfriends and I’m not really into comics. I’m like, there’s, there is a comic, truly a comic for everybody out there.
Kenric: definitely, you know, I didn’t, I didn’t know that I was reading your work when I was reading the Savage sorta Conan back in April
Meredith Finch: Oh, really?
Kenric: Yeah. I love Conan so well, you know, I was actually kind of bummed. I mean, I wasn’t bummed that Marvel took back the rights to Conan. Or got the rights again from dark horse.
I was more bond because they were having that really fun series with wonder woman and Conan
Meredith Finch: Yeah. Yeah.
Kenric: before, you know what I mean? And then that, that thing. So it was, I felt like it never got a chance to finish, but at the same time, the work that’s been going on with Kona, Marvel has been stellar, I think.
And yeah, the Savage sword was, that was a great runway right there that your arc was great.
Meredith Finch: Well, thank
Kenric: Yeah. When did you, uh, what did, when you learned you were gonna do Kona and what was your first reaction? Was it something that you already knew about and was excited for? Or was it something that you’re like, Ooh, I [00:06:00] gotta check this out.
Meredith Finch: no, no, I, how could I not know about Korean? Even if it’s only through Arnold Schwarzenegger, right. I was very excited because I think looking at my body of work fantasy and that sort of, sword and sorcery is really. It might. It’s my wheelhouse, it’s my passion. It’s what I love to do. And so I know it was a lot of fun to do Conan because even though I’ve written male characters in other stories, I’ve never had the chance to write a male lead before.
And, and that was a lot of fun because I live in a house of boys. So I feel like I know a lot about,
Kenric: Do you guys just, just you, is it all just boys in you?
Meredith Finch: um, the dog and the cat are both female. If that counts. But they don’t use the toilet and put the seat down. So
Kenric: it’s interesting that you, you, you wanted to take that role on or not that role I should say, but that you got a chance to write a strong. A male role because you’re [00:07:00] really known for strong female roles. I mean, if you look at what you’ve done from Erica to Diana, to Rose, and now Ruth, you have a real strong theme of strength without sacrificing femininity and womanhood.
And is that a, is that a theme that you like to keep going with your, with your female leads?
Meredith Finch: I would say that I never said it with the intention of writing a strong female character. I said that with the intention of writing an honest female character, and I think I’ve been very blessed to grow up in a family that just has a lot of naturally strong women. and so I, I, I, I think that, because I have that example, I don’t have to try to write a strong female character because it’s just, that’s who I am.
That’s who my mother is at two. My grandmother was, it’s just what I know. And, and so I think, I think sometimes when you. When you set out to, to check a box [00:08:00] that is when your work loses a bit of its, its heart and its authenticity, because now you’re just trying to play to something versus trying to tell a story and be true to a character or a theme or the point of your book.
Kenric: Right. You’re writing what, you know, when it comes to your characters. Yeah, I like it.
Meredith Finch: I know strong men too.
Casey: Yeah.
Meredith Finch: Or maybe I just wrote the male version of myself. I don’t know
Casey: So,
Meredith Finch: if I had a brother.
Casey: uh, as a, as a mom, how has that really influenced your work as a writer?
Meredith Finch: Absolutely. Absolutely. Because, I think part of. Certainly my experience of motherhood has been a journey of highs and lows [00:09:00] and celebrations and devastating losses. And, and I think that’s part of, you know, Dave and I talk often that a lot of times, really great artists are really great when they’re young, like early twenties.
Really great writers. You need to have, I think the life experience to be able to understand the nuances and shades of gray that, that, that people go through in their lives. Like as a, as a teenager or a 20 something young 20 something, I felt like the world was very black and white. and it, it’s not until you sort of live those life experiences and, and realize that.
You can always take a stand where you thought like on the, or the ground you’re taking that stand on. Isn’t as solid as you thought it was. I think that’s why you see so many writers writing or, or [00:10:00] becoming great later on in their life because they’ve had that much more experience, emotional pain, joys to draw on. So, yeah, the kids kill me all the time and yes, they show up in the books.
Casey: That’s awesome. Sorry. Sorry.
Meredith Finch: There’s like nothing to say to that. That’s it They’re like, that’s it. We’re done.
Kenric: Casey was, I had a follow up, so I was just like trying not to over-talk him. Oh, that’s hilarious. Hey, uh, you just had a very successful Kickstarter. And yeah. And it’s a cool concept because you took Ruth in broader into the, in, into the 21st century.
Meredith Finch: 20th
Kenric: 20th century. Yeah. Excuse me. Yeah.
Meredith Finch: was yeah.
Kenric: for people who don’t know, [00:11:00] uh, Ruth is the beginning of the messianic line and she is the grandmother to David and your crowdfunding was by design to get the name and the book out there.
What does this mean to you? What does this, what is the story and what is writing a deeply religious experience into a book like this mean to you?
Meredith Finch: it was, it was a very. Powerful experience for me doing it. and I wrote in, cause I always like with, Rose, I wrote a letter at the beginning of the first issue to the reader and I liked doing that because I think I like the reader to know where I’m coming from, when I’m telling these stories. And I did that
Kenric: authors do that, you don’t get that very often, but it just, it just kind of sets a tone and sets a mood and like just kind of puts you in the right mind space before you start.
Meredith Finch: it’s like a little conversation. And I realized when I was doing the book of Ruth, as you know, you sort of have, I had this idea, like I’m going to do this because we have very [00:12:00] strong faith in our household. And I was like, I’m going to do this thing for God. And I’m going to do this comic and, and look at me, go, and then at some point along the way, I kind of realized that exactly the opposite thing was happening.
That it wasn’t something that I was doing for God. It was something that God was doing for me and developing sort of my understanding of him developing my relationships with other people. Like it really was, it was. Very much, spiritually uplifting and, and, and, a very blessed endeavor for me.
And it brought people into my life that I feel incredibly grateful to, to have as part of my life journey now, and then having the Kickstarter. It just, it was incredibly overwhelming. To be able to set a pretty high target, I thought for that book, and how to be [00:13:00] successful. And that has actually ruled its way into, some other opportunities that are coming for me.
I, unfortunately I can’t talk about right
Kenric: That’s okay. Yeah.
Meredith Finch: we’ll be able to talk about soon, hopefully. So it really has been. Far more of a blessing to me than something that, that I did for God. But I think, you know, as someone of faith, when you listen and you do what you’re asked or called to do, I think that’s the point.
Kenric: Yeah. Well, now that the Kickstarter is done, correct.
Meredith Finch: Yes. Yeah. It’s being fulfilled. People are getting their books. I’m so excited. And actually I’ll announce it here. First, just got a printer or an email from the printer today that the hardcovers are shipping. They were delayed because of the COVID-19 and now they’re shipping.
Kenric: Oh, that is awesome. That’s great news.
Meredith Finch: Yeah. So. [00:14:00] People will be able to have their hard cover books.
Kenric: No, I love it.
Casey: If you don’t mind my asking, what was your inspiration to bring Ruth into light for lack of a better word, retro, modern times.
Meredith Finch: Yeah, I really, part of it was understanding the cycle of the story itself and how, Because it’s really, even though it’s called the book of Ruth it’s in many ways, it’s Naomi’s journey that we speak. and in the biblical book is split up into four chapters where there’s a period of, Famine or they have to leave Bethlehem and they go to the land of Moab and then they have this period of prosperity.
And then they have another period of famine where, you know, her sons die and, and Eli Malick dies. And then finally they have this fourth period of prosperity with Ruth marrying Boaz and, and the [00:15:00] beginning of the messianic line. And when I, when I. I sort of really researched that and read this story. It just may call it divine intervention or inspiration, but it just felt like when I thought about history, there was no period in history where we had so much of a period of, of highs and lows as well, maybe with the exception of 2020 now, but where, you know, people are living in such a time of prosperity and then.
With the great depression and the stock market collapse, this, this sort of sudden loss where people were, people were killing themselves and people were wandering homeless and they lost everything. And I felt like that period really mimicked very nicely, the journey that, that Naomi was going on and that we read about in that the book of Ruth.
[00:16:00] So. I hope to do that. If I get to do more of these than I hope to, I think the key is to really understand the story and then find a way to find a place to tell that in a way that people can relate to.
Casey: so the, the book itself looks fantastic. And Collin Dyer did a bang up job on the art. How, how was he, how did he get involved in the project?
Meredith Finch: I agree, a hundred percent. He is killer the I, and I just got my copy, uh, on Sunday. So I hadn’t even seen copies of it yet because I had them shipped to the States and I was like, Oh my gosh, the book looks so good. It’s even better than I could have imagined. So.
Kenric: just
Meredith Finch: Thank you. Yes, I fall in, just killed it, but I actually found him through Facebook.
I knew I was going to do the book and it’s always been, um, my, my. Philosophy. I did this with [00:17:00] Rose as well, that once I’ve started writing it and I’ve got a good first issue done to just hire the artist at that point, because now if the artist is working, I have to keep working. There’s no like, Oh, maybe I’ll write this thing.
In another month or two. Now some somebody depended on me for script. So after I’d finished the first chapter, I was talking to Dave and I had emailed a couple of people who I know who represent artists and ask them to send me, you know, some people who are looking for work so many submissions, and I just didn’t find anything that was quite right.
And at that point it was like, why don’t you just put it on Facebook? So I did I put on Facebook, I’m looking for ours is for a Christian publication. you know, some year submissions, I think you put it on Twitter and Instagram too. and I got a ton of stuff, really fantastic art, but it wasn’t quite right.
Like, I really had a very specific style that I [00:18:00] thought I wanted, for that time period too. Right. cause a superhero style doesn’t really work for depression, era story.
Casey: yeah,
Kenric: right.
Meredith Finch: and then I went to bed that night and I prayed about it. I’m like Lord, cause I was feeling a little bit, um, defeated, maybe that I wasn’t a hundred percent positive.
It was just like, Lord, if this is what you want me to do, I just pray. You help me find the right hours to do it. So I came down the next morning, I sat to my computer. I opened up. Facebook and the very first message or posts that I looked at was from calling.
Kenric: Oh,
Meredith Finch: And then I ran upstairs and I opened, I woke Dave up.
I normally let them sleep in because I’m an early morning person and he’s a Nighthawk. I was like, Dave, Oh my gosh. Oh my gosh, you have to see this. I think this might be perfect. And I guess the rest is history.
Kenric: That’s awesome.
Casey: Now, now that you mentioned that [00:19:00] the superhero style doesn’t work for, um, depression era, I just really want to see a Rob Layfield, um, illustrated version of grapes of wrath that,
Kenric: That would be interesting.
Casey: sorry, sorry. Add to add that.
Kenric: It’d be a lot of pockets. Oh my God. Hey, so writing emotions into your characters, you have a innate ability. To do this. Where do you think it came from that you’re able to express these emotions in the writing?
Meredith Finch: Thank you and anybody in my family will tell you I’m highly dramatic. And
Kenric: believe it at all.
Meredith Finch: our youngest apparently gets it from me. He’s all like, yeah. Well, I’m the only girl in the house. So I’m allowed to, I don’t know. I, I think I just, I have a few [00:20:00] strategies that I use when I’m, when I’m writing characters. sometimes when I was writing Rose and I had trouble getting. Like into the character, I would journal as a character.
So if I had to write a scene with, with Drusilla, I would just journal as Drusilla. Like I’m, I hate the world and I’m so angry. And this impudent little wrench keeps getting in the way of all my plans and, or I, I, I write as, as Rose and try to get into that mindset and I tend to. I think when I read the dialogue back, cause it kind of ends up happening.
Like you write your script and you put in dialogue placeholders in there, but until you’ve seen the finished artwork, you can’t know what your final dialogue is going to be. So I try to act it out in my head, how people would say it and what it would sound like. And if people walked in my house at that moment and saw me like scowling and shaking my fist, they’d be like, what’s going on with her? Having [00:21:00] she’s having a fit here, but, but yeah, I, I think they just try to put a lot of my, whatever emotion I’m channeling at that point. Like maybe I’m angry at Dave that I’m going to write that angry thing today. Cause I’m already checked off. So,
Kenric: yeah. D do you go as far as like, even changing the clothes that you’re wearing?
Meredith Finch: no, I haven’t gotten that far yet. I have some used music sometimes though. I will say that.
Kenric: What kind of music do you do you tend to use when you’re writing like a villain versus your protagonist?
Meredith Finch: Okay. Um, usually it’s, when I’m running a scene, it’s sad. I’ll be like, I need to be sad. And so put on music that will like make me cry and I’m like different than, Oh my gosh. I’m so sad. I’m all alone. Yeah,
Kenric: So you think there’s more stories out there in the Christian faith and value system that you can see yourself doing?
Meredith Finch: absolutely. Absolutely. I think. You know, it’s, it’s one of those situations [00:22:00] where the Bible is an incredible book, but, um, a lot of times the language can, and even just the size of it
Kenric: Yeah, the entry to barrier can be pretty daunting.
Meredith Finch: Yes. And, and so I think it’s a great way to expose people to these stories of faith and introduce them.
Somebody who might not necessarily these days have ever gone to church or ever heard the Lord’s prayer, because we don’t say it in schools anymore. So for them, religion can, is a word is almost like a bad word. And so I think it’s a great way to. Introduce the idea that faith isn’t religion, um, and what faith can be for people. So I think there’s definitely, um, and I think the Kickstarter, the success of that shows that [00:23:00] there’s a market for that. And I think people, you know, people yearn for spirituality and they’ll look for it in places where. It might not be exactly what they’re looking for, but I think that’s part of our journey on this, on this earth is to, to constantly seek and look for, for that, that meaning behind our life.
And I think, I think they’re always going to be stories that, that answer that, that can be told.
Kenric: Yeah.
Casey: so w when you wrote, for, for instance, like the wonder woman comic, and you, you have a very long and very successful run on that book. did you find the opportunities to do that and kind of maintain your Christian faith in, in that writing throughout your, throughout the process of that book?
Meredith Finch: I did because I really, for me, that story and wonder woman as a character is all about love. [00:24:00] Like I just, when I was, when I was trying to get into who she was, the idea, and she was so well written by Brian Israel, who I took over from, and as I’m watching. Reading about her and reading his, his arc. I was like, she just has this tremendous love for humanity.
And I think that that’s something that as a Christian I can totally relate to because that’s the ultimate, you know, feeling that God has for us. He just, that’s why we have Jesus because God so loved the world. Right. Um, So it, wasn’t hard to, I think if you look back through all of my books, there’s, um, there is an undercurrent theme of, of love that sort of reads its way.
Cause I think there’s a lot that can be explored and there’s so many levels for that. And I always want to tell stories that lift people up [00:25:00] and make them feel good when they, when they read my book, I think they’re, I’m not the person. That, um, wants to leave you questioning as much as I want to leave you, with the feeling of, Oh, I’m so glad I, I read that book, Dave, Dave and I have been it’s funny because Dave had been watching a lot of Netflix, like many people
Kenric: Right. Like everyone.
Meredith Finch: and, um, you know, his choice is always like horror movie.
Um, darker zombie, like that kind of stuff. And somebody buy some of that, but lately we haven’t been able to find sort of what we wanted. So he’s been letting me make more choices.
Kenric: Right?
Meredith Finch: And so most of them not always the greatest film in the world. I could, I could complain about the dialogue or maybe the acting isn’t a hundred percent, but at the end of the day, he’s like, I don’t even care because I just felt good watching the movie. [00:26:00] And I think that people, the way you leave people feeling, I think really matters.
Kenric: you know what, I, I totally get that. There’s times where I don’t want to watch something. That’s gonna make me. Feel overtly aggressive, just something that makes me feel good. It makes me feel whole. And when I’m done, I feel like, Oh, that was, that was nice and refreshing and put some of that faith back into humanity that, uh, you know, cause it’s so easy to be negative, you know, and to be a naysayer.
And so when you get a listen and watch something or read something that, that kind of puts that faith back in yet, if it feels good,
Meredith Finch: Yeah, no, I agree. I, I find myself, I can tend to the negative be sometimes critical. And so I, I like to just fill the rest of myself up with positive. Good. Because I can, I can bring the negative all by myself. I don’t need help with that.
Kenric: Right. Meredith I felt so dirty [00:27:00] watching tiger King.
Meredith Finch: Oh, No, I hear ya.
Kenric: watched that whole thing. And all I could think is why am I still watching this? You know? And it was just cause it was such a train wreck, you know? And, but, but when I, and when I was done and it was all said and done and that, and talking with people.
And then it’s just like the jokes about the people that are on and everything, you know, and it’s just like, these are just people that are trying to live the best they can, you know, and they just happened to get caught up in this craziness of these two people
Meredith Finch: Yeah. Okay. You think that’s why that show, I think resonated with so many people as much as you, because there was an earnestness
Kenric: yeah.
Meredith Finch: what was happening,
Kenric: Yeah,
Meredith Finch: good or bad. There was a, an earnestness and a sincerity. To the, to the train wreck. And I think people, I think [00:28:00] people see a little bit of themselves in that, that, you know, sometimes I might go and serve people Thanksgiving dinner, and then sometimes I might go in and be a total asshole to somebody in the drive through.
Kenric: right. It’s so weird. It’s, it’s a, there’s another one called the, the, the wild and wonderful world of the lights. And it’s, I don’t think it’s on Netflix anymore, but it’s just about a, uh, a bumpkin family in West Virginia. And the, they they’ve had run ins with the law for 50 years and it, but it’s just a wild, it is a wild, crazy thing.
It’s the same kind of thing though. You know, where they’re just so nutty, you just can’t believe what you’re watching, but I can’t help to think. I remember back in college and I took sociology and my teacher was like, if I, if she was super smart and she, and sociology was a, it’s a, it’s an odd class. Uh, I took like two years of it.
And, but my first, my [00:29:00] sociology one Oh one was the heart to this day. It’s the hardest class that I ever took. Cause she was just tough. You know what I mean? And she, but she was the one that changed my whole mindset on the homeless problems of the world. You know, when you look at someone that’s homeless and you’re like, why can’t you just go get a job?
And it’s like, well, when you find yourself on the street, And you don’t know how you got there to happen so fast, it breaks your mind. And I’m only saying this because, you know, when you, when, when you watch something that gives you some faith in humanity and that things you can, you, your compassion comes back, you know, and you’re watching people and you’re seeing this.
And I, I felt so bad for those people on those, on that TV show, on that show,
Meredith Finch: Well, and I think the other thing too, is it was. Actual reality television so much, so much of what we watch. That’s I say reality television [00:30:00] it’s completely scripted. So it’s not reality anymore. Maybe it was 10 years ago, but now everything that’s reality, television is completely scripted and people know there’d be like the people that are performing
Kenric: Right.
Meredith Finch: was not a performance It was real and it was honest and it was raw. And I think that definitely, yeah, it was it wasn’t time. And I think that’s why people were so drawn to it because, because it was so honest.
Kenric: was, it was, it was such a crazy time. Hey. I don’t know very many dynamic duos like you and your husband that has been as successful. And the only other team that I could think of was Walton Louise Simonson.
Meredith Finch: and Amanda.
Kenric: Yeah.
Meredith Finch: Yep.
Kenric: Oh, that’s true. Yeah. Jimmy Paul Miata. Yup. Yup. Yup.
Meredith Finch: And Amanda Connor
Kenric: Yup. And Amanda Connor, who else? There’s not a lot out there though.
Meredith Finch: there, aren’t a lot of comic [00:31:00] book couples. No.
Kenric: Yeah. How has that been with you guys? Are you, cause you did wonder woman together. I’m not aware of how other, how other projects that you have done together.
Meredith Finch: nothing. We haven’t done anything together yet. I mean, other than he’s done, done covers for me, but, we keep talking about it. It always ends up that, He’s working on a book when I’m finishing something or I’m working on something when he’s finishing something. And then I think we both are at the point now where if we were going to do something together, we want it to be a creator own project, but then that means time away from, you know, making money is
Kenric: yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. It’s hard at that. Hous speaking to create our own house scared. Were you to take that leap with Rose?
Meredith Finch: Not as scared as I was for throughs, interestingly enough. Cause Rose, I was like, whatever, I’ll just do it. And you know,
Kenric: It’s it’s backed by image. Whatever [00:32:00] I
Meredith Finch: yeah, yeah,
Kenric: fails, but if it succeeds great.
Meredith Finch: yeah. New image was they put a huge push behind it, so it felt okay. Uh, with Ruth. I was, I was scared
Kenric: yeah. Cause you didn’t know people’s reaction to it because.
Meredith Finch: really
Kenric: Yeah. Cause when you, when you mix in religion, it’s hard. You don’t know what people’s reaction to. It’s always going to be, you know, they can either be very pro or, you know, or against, you know, there’s not very many people that are going to be man, whatever, you know, they’re either going to be like, Oh my God, I can’t believe they’re doing that.
Or they’re going to be, I can’t wait to read this. So I’m so happy that you you’ve had success with this so far. I can’t wait to see you got more coming out in this, in this series or is this going to be a one and done, and we’re going to move on to a new story.
Meredith Finch: Well, this one I think for now is a one and done. There’s a few other stories I’d like to explore. I do have another book coming out this [00:33:00] hopefully this year, although it got delayed a little bit again, because of the COVID-19 thing, um, through Kate pitchers publishing who, they’re the ones who actually picked up Bruce and they’ll, they’ll be distributing it.
So if you want to, if you didn’t get it on the Kickstarter, uh, it will be, it was supposed to be in the may solicitations. Now it will be in the August solicitations. So you’ll be able to get
Kenric: So when you say August solicitations, those are. Yeah. Okay. So yeah. So in August you’ll you can go to your local, your LCS, your local comic store, pick up the catalog or even online, and then you can order it and you’ll receive your book in November.
Meredith Finch: Right. Which is just in time for Christmas.
Kenric: Yeah. Cause I was going to ask you, because my mom is deeply religious.
I was raised Irish, Catholic, Roman, Catholic, whatever. However you want to say it
Meredith Finch: Yep.
Kenric: for a very, you know, and she is. she she’s very strict. You know, we watched the Goonies when I was a kid and the scene where they break down the [00:34:00] little statue Michelangelo, and she was like, Oh no, you gotta turn this off.
I’m done, you know? Yeah, yeah, yeah. She’s very classic, you know, 1950 style, Roman Catholic, you know what I mean? So everything is very rigid, very, you know, everything has to be done in a certain way. And. And we had all that, but she’s sneakily progressive, you know? And so I think reading brougth in this type of format, I think she’ll, I, I, I firmly believe she will love this and it will be like, you know, surprisingly.
So you know what I mean? Like I’m going to get it for, cause I’m going to order my in August. Cause I missed her Kickstarter, which I was really bummed because I, when I, when. Jeff goes, Hey, Meredith is coming on and I’ll be honest. I didn’t know your work. I read your work. Didn’t even know it, right? Because I read Kona and Savage Conan. Yeah. So I start going back and I’m like, Oh, this girl has done a lot, you know? And she’s, [00:35:00] you know, and she’s married to David Finch. He’s done a lot. I mean, this is crazy. How do they know? Who knows who she is? And then when I read what you were doing with Ruth and I was like, Oh, this is really cool. And I went to go buy the book.
Cause I was like, my mom will love this and it would already be finished. I was like,
Meredith Finch: Well, let’s see you. Haven’t missed your window of
Kenric: That’s right. Well, this is even better now because I’ll get in November and she’ll have, she’ll have it for Christmas. I mean, cause she turns 80 this June.
Meredith Finch: Oh, my goodness. Well, happy birthday to her.
Kenric: Thank you. Yeah. She’ll um, I think she’ll get a kick out of it. She’ll won’t know. I’m not even gonna tell her what it’s about. I’m just going to say you should read this and tell me what you think. You know what I mean?
Meredith Finch: If she doesn’t like it, don’t tell me.
Kenric: Nah, she’ll love it. She’ll know exactly. As soon as she starts reading it, she’s she, her mind is smart as a whip.
Right. She doesn’t, she hasn’t meant she doesn’t miss anything. And so I noticed shoots, he starts reading it and I know the book and I know the story of Ruth is one of her favorites, so she’ll know it right away.
Meredith Finch: perfect. Yeah. [00:36:00] Perfect.
Well, I’m often like you have to, maybe I can send you a sign, something to go with it for.
Kenric: Yeah, that’d be great. You know what, when I order it, I’ll let you know. And then I’ll just send it up to you.
Meredith Finch: Oh, yeah. Perfect. And then you can get
Kenric: just get a self addressed stamped envelope back and boom done. Yeah, that’d be awesome. That’ll be awesome. She’ll be like, what is this? I’m excited now. I can’t wait to do this.
Meredith Finch: Your first comic mom.
Kenric: Right.
Cause I mean, when I was growing up, I read comic books, incessantly, and it’s really my, my bigger, my big brother’s fault. Cause I snuck into his room and he had a bunch of old, you know, seventies Batman’s and the beginning of transformers and GI Joe. And my first comic I read was magic. It was not my first comic, but I mean the first mini series I read was the magic miniseries and then Wolverine and kitty pride and all those ex, and I just really fell in love with the whole marble line because that’s what my brother got.
So [00:37:00] that’s what I got to read first. And so I was incessant about it. I’d go down to my comic store, I’d get a bunch of stuff. And, but she hated those covers, you know, she’d see Wolverine with his claws popped out. She’s like, Oh, that’s so violent. Do you have to be reading that? I was like, that’s really not as bad as you think it is.
Meredith Finch: Yeah, I know.
Kenric: yeah, most of them weren’t.
Meredith Finch: That’s awesome.
Kenric: well, Meredith thank you so much for coming on. This was such a hoot.
Meredith Finch: Thank you for having me.
Kenric: I hope we can get you on again to talk some more. And when you’re able to talk about your new project that you couldn’t talk about yet.
Meredith Finch: Yes. Hopefully soon I’ll be able to say
Kenric: Yeah. And then come on.
Meredith Finch: an announcement about it.
Kenric: Oh, that’d be awesome.
And I want you to know that our door is always open. If you have stuff that you want to promote, like new projects or new stories, or even if you’re doing an op ed priests and you want us to know about it, let us know we will get it out there. We have a great website called [00:38:00] dot com. We have articles going out every day.
We have press releases and we can definitely put you into the machine, which would be an honor.
Meredith Finch: That would be great. Thank you so much. I really appreciate it. Where were you? When I was doing my Kickstarter?
Kenric: know, right. Jeez, we won’t miss the next one. That’s for sure.
Meredith Finch: There we go.
Kenric: Alright. Well, thank you so much, Meredith. We’ll talk to you soon.
Meredith Finch: Thanks for having me on guys. Have a great night and stay safe.
Kenric: too. You too. Thanks. Bye.
Meredith Finch: Thanks. Bye. Bye.

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